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Old 12-07-2008, 05:58 PM   #1281
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

Expect the 35i to weight less than E85 Z4 M, and less then SLK 350.

So, approx 1,450kg (by EU), IMO.

By 306HP ... that's 4.75kg/PS (by EU), or 4.49kg/PS by DIN.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:04 PM   #1282
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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the Z4 M was close to 1500kg (real weight). now the e89 is a bit bigger, has more "features", the DKG and the metal roof... AND BMW isnot famous for light weight cars (as porsche) ... M6 convertibel is 2100KG!!

my guess is 1600kg for the z4 "street weight". with the 3.0tt (326HP) it will be almost 5kg/HP - that is not "thrilling"....

with the V8 we talk at least "some less than 4kg/HP"...
Are you trying to say Porsche makes lightweight cars? They don't Cayenne is fat, Panamera is fat and 911 is hardly light either.
Anyways, 1600 kg sounds like too much. I'm hoping no more than 1500

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Eni, I was thinking around those figures too. F01 is lighter than E65, F10 than E60 and E89 weighs less than E85. That's how it'll be. None of BMW's Efficient Dynamics features would have much effect if the cars keep on gaining weight. Keeping the weight down should be, and probably is, one of the most important parts of the new cars
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:54 AM   #1283
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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Expect the 35i to weight less than E85 Z4 M, and less then SLK 350.

So, approx 1,450kg (by EU), IMO.

By 306HP ... that's 4.75kg/PS (by EU), or 4.49kg/PS by DIN.

The official E85 EU figures are 1385kg, 265PS, and 0-100km/h in 5.7sec.
How close to 5.0 will the E89 twinturbo be? I am guessing 5.2.... (if not closer).

Very close to the non-PDK 2009 Boxster S, if not faster.


EDIT: actually, the 335i coupe already does it in 5.2! that should bring the time of the E89 Z4, if 1450kg, to just under 5sec.. (I have trouble believing that, it will put the M in a hard position..).

Mike

PS: sorry for the edit..

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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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Expect the 35i to weight less than E85 Z4 M, and less then SLK 350.

So, approx 1,450kg (by EU), IMO.

By 306HP ... that's 4.75kg/PS (by EU), or 4.49kg/PS by DIN.
Wow! That is one strong opinion Eni. That would mean it weighs a bit less than a 135i. I find that incredibly hard to believe but I've eaten crow before.
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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Wow! That is one strong opinion Eni. That would mean it weighs a bit less than a 135i. I find that incredibly hard to believe but I've eaten crow before.
What would be your guess for a 0-100km/h?
hopefully not more than 5.3sec. A 5.2 or lower would make me very happy.

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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

Seriosly guys, 0-100km/h times are unbelievable boring meassure.
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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Seriosly guys, 0-100km/h times are unbelievable boring meassure.
i was a 0-1000m person for years myself actually. but if you mean that figures in general aren't an expression of the value of a car, i totally agree and is what i think too.

But think of it.. A regular non-M Z4 accelerating faster than its Porsche equivalent

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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

the Cayenne is not a "Porsche" but a marketing cash-cow! It has NOTHING of a sportive car. I am sceptic about the Panamera...

1495 for the E89 35i? well, well we will see..I doubt...
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Re: Next generation BMW Z4 E89 - part II (first FEP pics incl. !!!)

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What would be your guess for a 0-100km/h?
hopefully not more than 5.3sec. A 5.2 or lower would make me very happy.

Mike
I'd say 5.0sec to 100km.
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I'd say 5.0sec to 100km.
Better than a Porsche 911 of only 5 years ago.
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