Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe - Page 21

Tycoon · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

I was always told that the Motorsport division wouldn't put their stamp on anything that didn't fit the M way of doing things, i.e. any large car like a 7-Series or any X model. If they're going to do a X6-M then they must be going back on this somewhat.

M

Thanks!

Feel free to search for Scott's explanation in this thread why this car fits in M philosophy...

EDIT: here it is:

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Originally Posted by SCOTT27

X6 is why M will not go into X5. The X6 will be the car more performance orientated and suitable for the M badge in terms of dynamics , performance and packaging and materials . Incidentally this will be the first BMW M car to adapt with four wheel drive. Although the first models will use BMW's upcoming V8 turbo which will begin with the X5 and the next 7er first. BMW wanting to introduce the X6 with top-level petrol and diesel powerplants to refer to the premium individual status of the X6.
A V8 diesel is confirmed for European customers. BMW will build the car in it's Spartanburg works in South Carolina alongside the X5 and Z4 models.
The BMW premium market strategy (BMW's master plan for the future in the early 00's) jigsaw is rapidly falling into place.

The BMW product line up in 2010 will be very hard to beat.

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Originally Posted by SCOTT27

The proposition of an X6 coupe fullfills the AWD potential of the M-brand furthermore than the X5 could - X5 as M does not fullfill the criteria expected for M. BMW -M always have insisted that the four wheel drive vehicle that would inherit M-badging would be a vehicle that inherits the key criteria of the brand - performance, weight and superior dynamics and incase of the X6 a dynamic looking sportbased coupe will appeal to the M ideals of representation than a full size SUV like the X5.

Of course the ideas that concern the M-version are just that at the moment with the actual X6 launching in mid-late 2008 an M-variant would not see introduction till at least late 2009 or early 2010 probably using the next incarnation of BMW's V10 with a higher output than today's V10 which will also arrive in the next generation of M5 and M6.

Merc1 · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:13 AM

I honestly don't see how the X6 fits the M criteria any more than X5. You guys are just falling for a corporate line IMO. They're based on the same chassis and will likely weigh the same, if the X6 is lighter by a few hundred pounds I'd be shocked. The only real difference is the look and seating capacity. Sure it will be sportier than the X5, but the origin is the same. This is like saying the E-Class doesn't fit the AMG "criteria" but the CLS does. Bunk, imo. BMW built a V12 X5 years ago that would have surely fit the M criteria.

M

Tycoon · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:23 AM

Marcus, Scott has explained several times that this car will be much sportier than X5, lower ground clearance, wider, different suspension setup and more things that do fit the M criteria... If they say it fits, believe it, it fits.

I was kinda surprised too, i must admit, never thought they'll go for it, but it's the reality now. M never disappointed me, i'm sure they won't this time as well.

X5 V12 was produced due to V12's victory at LeMans and was only a show-off vehicle...

Just_me · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:24 AM

remember the BMW X5 LeMans Concept -

Tycoon · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:27 AM

Hell yeah!

That was my wallpaper for months long...

Merc1 · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TycoonGTR

Marcus, Scott has explained several times that this car will be much sportier than X5, lower ground clearance, wider, different suspension setup and more things that do fit the M criteria... If they say it fits, believe it, it fits.

I was kinda surprised too, i must admit, never thought they'll go for it, but it's the reality now. M never disappointed me, i'm sure they won't this time as well.

I'm sure they won't disappoint, but do you really think they couldn't do all that with the X5? They're the same chassis so of course they could. The marketing mask has come off here IMO. A better line would be that the X6 makes a better starting point compared to the X5, IMO. To say that they're so vastly different to the point where the X6 fits and the X5 automatically doesn't, I'm not buying...well at least until it comes out. Its a E vs CLS thing going on IMO, no long drawn out explanation is needed.

M

Tycoon · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:38 AM

For something that never happened, but will very soon (M vehicle with 4wd) the long drawn out explanation is needed. Unfortunately, i'm not the guy that can explain this, but there are people that can.

They are making a completely new car (despite sharing the same platform with X5) and they are making an M version. Why? 'Cause there are probably or for sure, many differences between those two; one can be made by M and other can't. How come? Ask Scott or M division, not me.

Merc1 · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TycoonGTR

For something that never happened, but will very soon (M vehicle with 4wd) the long drawn out explanation is needed. Unfortunately, i'm not the guy that can explain this, but there are people that can.

They are making a completely new car (despite sharing the same platform with X5) and they are making an M version. Why? 'Cause there are probably or for sure, many differences between those two; one can be made by M and other can't. How come? Ask Scott or M division, not me.

Well I'm willing to be convinced, I just don't buy that they couldn't make a M version of the X5. I'm semi-worried about how the X6 is going to look at the rear. The roofline appears to be sloped off kinda radically, but we'll see.

M

Tycoon · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

Well I'm willing to be convinced, I just don't buy that they couldn't make a M version of the X5.

M

Marcus, they could make an M version of X5, they said so, but they also said that the car wouldn't perform like the true M car.

They say the X6 will, hence the production...

Merc1 · **Re: Spy pics: BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe -** 05-11-2007, 05:00 AM

We shall see.

M