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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 01:10 AM

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The X6 is a larger car so it should a bit roomier for tall people, especially in the back. I have never been seated in a CLS so I can't comment on the head room.



SUV, SAV, SAC? I and most people don't care, they are all significantly heavier than Sedans and station wagons and therefor fall into the same basket. BMW can cook up all sorts of acronyms for their beasts but the end consumer will use the collective word SUV.

I know it's not meant to be practical and just wanted to reply on your statement as to how people could perceive it as a unpractical.

At the end of the day the consumers will not compare it to proper coupes like the 6er, SLK or GT-R but instead to the RR, X5, ML and Cayenne. The same way the CLS, E-class and 5er despite the differences between the former and the two later, they all three battle for the same consumer dollars.
But that was the point of distinguishing the X6 from the X5. People would have almost no reason to buy the X6 when they want the space that you can find in an X5.

I agree that these acronyms are getting ridiculous. It IS an 4X4 and that's that. However, you can seperate the people that want offroad capability + space vs. people that want presence and bling factor. The X6 falls in the latter category.

Case and point... how many times have you seen people driving in a Cadillac Escalade ESV with more dvd screens in peoples homes... and there's no one in the rear seats most of the time.
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 01:43 AM

I was looking more into the website. The X6 has air intake flaps that open and close depending on whether the engine needs cooling or not. This supposedly helps with drag thus reducing fuel consumption. Never seen anything like that before.

Useful or gimmick?
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 02:05 AM

Between reading through all the posts, I have been playing with the color and wheel combinations....this is brilliant!

Which color and wheel combo is the (dark greyish) one from the concept?

Quote from EnI: "Again: X6 does not target an average SAV / SUV owner, nor a typical sports car fan. But it targets a niche group who wants both worlds in one car. Such a group is out there ... and it's not that small. It's not something that's made up - it's a fact."

Fact. I am one from that niche group.

I always wanted an M3. But I liked the X5, alot. Last year, just around this time, I was talking to someone about cars, and telling them how I wished my favourite car manufacturer (BMW), would come up with something that would be in between both worlds. And now, they have. Does it make me impractical for desiring a coupe, but knowing it is not realistic for me to have at the moment? Or does desiring an SUV for mainly aethestic purposes make me non traditional? Luckily for me, (and thanks to patience being my true virtue), waiting has paid off well. With the purchase of a new car right over my horizon, my market niche was answered. I asked this question. And they responded to the little voices who are not the majority. But I believe that its success will outnumber those who think this shall fail-it will convert some, make owners out of others. And make observers out of everyone.

Now, back to my question at hand. Does anyone know that concept color?
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 02:37 AM

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Between reading through all the posts, I have been playing with the color and wheel combinations....this is brilliant!

Which color and wheel combo is the (dark greyish) one from the concept?

Quote from EnI: "Again: X6 does not target an average SAV / SUV owner, nor a typical sports car fan. But it targets a niche group who wants both worlds in one car. Such a group is out there ... and it's not that small. It's not something that's made up - it's a fact."

Fact. I am one from that niche group.

I always wanted an M3. But I liked the X5, alot. Last year, just around this time, I was talking to someone about cars, and telling them how I wished my favourite car manufacturer (BMW), would come up with something that would be in between both worlds. And now, they have. Does it make me impractical for desiring a coupe, but knowing it is not realistic for me to have at the moment? Or does desiring an SUV for mainly aethestic purposes make me non traditional? Luckily for me, (and thanks to patience being my true virtue), waiting has paid off well. With the purchase of a new car right over my horizon, my market niche was answered. I asked this question. And they responded to the little voices who are not the majority. But I believe that its success will outnumber those who think this shall fail-it will convert some, make owners out of others. And make observers out of everyone.

Now, back to my question at hand. Does anyone know that concept color?
I'm not sure if it's the same color as the CS, but I think it's called something like shadow chrome? It's a special color only for concept cars. I think the closest you'll get to that is space grey even though it is a lot lighter.
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 02:52 AM

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I was looking more into the website. The X6 has air intake flaps that open and close depending on whether the engine needs cooling or not. This supposedly helps with drag thus reducing fuel consumption. Never seen anything like that before.

Useful or gimmick?
Where are these flaps located? Other cars have had this before and I'd say anything nowadays to save a little fuel is worth it.

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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 03:34 AM

4.4 liters Twin Turbo V8, 407hp and 600nm between 1800-4500 rpm.

For this is the first eight-cylinder gasoline engine in the world to feature its turbocharger in the V-section between the two rows of cylinders.

The BMW X6 is the only car in the complete segment of BMW X Models to feature a sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles as standard, which enable the driver to shift gears manually on the six-speed automatic transmission

BMW is the first carmaker in the world to use FlexRay technology in a regular production car.

And last but not least, it almost goes without saying that the engine fulfils both the US ULEV II emissions standard as well as the EU5 requirements in Europe.
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 04:26 AM

(Still playing with the Visualizer).....


Is it just my eyes, but is the Tasman metallic the grey seen on the concept? I know men are known to be color blind , but it is a bit deceiving, for it also seems to look like a metallic pale green...
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 04:30 AM

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I have never seen so much marketing speel. This thing is a SUV like every other SUV and Luw is right. Customers couldn't care less about what its called.
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Indeed. The name does not matter. Product does. And it does for a quite large group of people.

And I told you why such product is offered, and why eg. your & Luw's & of other irrelevant non-targeted group opinion does not matter to BMW.

And please, would you be so kind and stop with your constant "argument" every BMW explanation is "an excuse", "a spin" etc.
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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 04:43 AM

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Indeed. The name does not matter. Product does. And it does for quite large group of people.

And I told you why such product is offered, and why eg. your & Luw's & of other irrelevant non-targeted group opinion does not matter to BMW.

And please stop with your constant "argument" every BMW explanation is "an excuse", "a spin" etc.
You seem to live in this fantasy world that believes that somehow the people "targeted" with this marketing stuff actually believe it. The bottom line is that in the real world people will look at the X6 and like the way it looks and/or drives and buy one. No one is going to refer to the X6 as a SAC or whatever, it will be called a SUV or Crossover.

Now because Luw and I don't subscribe to the BMW bible of endless acronyms our opinions don't matter. Man this is too much.

You seem to imply that somehow the people that BMW will "target" with their marketing of this vehicle are either smarter than everyone else or that they've been waiting for a SAC to come along. I can't tell you how ridiculous all of this is.

If the name doesn't matter and the product does (your words) that right there proves what a crock all this SAC nonsense is in the first place. When the product is outstanding (which the X6 appears to be) all this other marketing fluff really isn't needed. All people have to do is get a look at the thing.

Furthermore this "targeted group" nonsense is really something because you're telling me that BMW actually is going to target a select buyer and not the SUV/Crossover market in general? People who don't fit your target group don't get to buy? They aren't worthy?

The whole thing is nothing but a marketing spin plain and simple. When what we're really talking about here is a sportier take on the suv/crossover with a unique shape/design.

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Re: Official: BMW X6 - 12-18-2007, 04:46 AM

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