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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:21 AM

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These cars all have pillars.

Mazda RX-8 does not have a B-pillar :

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And Subaru Forester SUV has frameless windows : I think BMW should have made the X6 has them :

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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:31 AM

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Yeah but Audi's manage without the ugly small sticking pillars. No Audi has them and that's what makes their glass area so clean.
a) no sticking pillars when C pillar is vertical enough (not possible on X6!)

b) when C-pillar not vertical enough, Audi use additional piece of plastic (rail) at the bottom of C-pillar to support the window (check eg. A4 B7, A6, A8 etc)

Also ... many BMW models (X3, X5, tourings etc) have "sticking mini C-pillars" and no complaints have been made till now.
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:37 AM

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a) no sticking pillars when C pillar is vertical enough (not possible on X6!)

b) when C-pillar not vertical enough, Audi use additional piece of plastic (rail) at the bottom of C-pillar to support the window (check eg. A4 B7, A6, A8 etc)

Also ... many BMW models (X3, X5, tourings etc) have "sticking mini C-pillars" and no complaints have been made till now.
Yeah but that's because on the other models, the "sticking mini C-pillar" does not make the glass area so busy as it does in the X6, as pointed by some of the guys.

As for an example on how it can be done when the C-pillar is raked like on the X6 (or the CLS), we will see it done on the upcoming Audi A7.
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:38 AM

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we will see it done on the upcoming Audi A7.
and we know this how? what did I miss?
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:39 AM

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Mazda RX-8 does not have a B-pillar :

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And Subaru Forester SUV has frameless windows : I think BMW should have made the X6 has them :

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the frameless windows I can agree on, but I'm sorry, that mazda has a B-pillar, it's just integrated in the doors, but when closed, it has all the looks of a normal B-pillar, therefor it has a B-pillar.
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:50 AM

Yeah but that's because on the other models, the "sticking mini C-pillar" does not make the glass area so busy as it does in the X6, as pointed by some of the guys. Mind that unlike other BMW models, the X6 has a third side window ala Audi's, but, on Audi's there is no sticking C-pillar like on the X6. That is what makes the X6's glass area looks too busy. For example, the CLS also has them but its glass area does not look too busy because it does not have a third side window :

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As for an example on how it can be done when the C-pillar is raked like on the X6 (or the CLS), we will see it done on the upcoming Audi A7. Audi's do not have these sticking mini C-pillars as it is their design signature, but it's also their design signature to have a third side window, so we will see how it can be done when the A7 arrives.
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:53 AM

you've seen the upcomming A7?
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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:54 AM

OK, point made.

X6 rear side window looks too busy.

Now we can move on.

Please do not make this thread BMW vs Audi ... again !!!


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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 05:55 AM

Of course it doesn't look that busy on cars with no Hoffmeister kink...

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Re: BMW X6 Concept & X6 Active Hybrid Concept (official pics & info) - 10-16-2007, 06:01 AM

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OK, point made.

X6 rear side window looks too busy.

Now we can move on.

Please do not make this thread BMW vs Audi ... again !!!


Otherwise moderation will be needed. Hi-jacking a thread is a rule violation here, and can be sanctioned!!!
OK. I know the rules and I have no intention in violating them nor hijacking this thread. I love BMW's new design directions with the X6 and F5 but I really think they could have executed some of the details better. I am not comparing BMW vs Audi but as BMW starts having third side windows on some of their new designs (X6, F5), I just want to point out that if the mini sticking C-pillar is not eliminated, it will always make the rear side windows look 'too busy'. Not just on the X6 but also on the F5.

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