With all due respect, Marcus, and i mean it when i say respect, here's what i think about this statement of yours -

No damn car is perfect today and there are also minuses by BMW that can make me give up from that car. And if i find faults by the car, i'll tell it for sure, regardless of it being BMW. I'm going to spend almost 100k on the car and i don't want to expirience such things like these people from CanDriver, but if i find 'em, wait to see me bitchin about it! That's why i've told you don't try.

Seems to me that it's you who tries to label me here... And you know how...

Since i agree with you about that, with no hesitation i can say i'm not the one that disqualifies reviews. You know that! Well, at least i thought so...

I don't give a damn if they love it or not, the only thing i'm saying (and i think there are many here that will agree) that i'm not buying reviews from this person:



That may sound lame, low or whatever to you, but that's my opinion.

Really, I thought that of your comment about the review being "pathetic".

Yeah sure, I bet any amount of money you'll fall for the X5 even more so after this exchange!


Didn't label you at all, just called it like I saw it. Review wasn't good = pathetic to you.

Yeah she is awfully homely, run over looking, but what does that have with her ability as a automotive writer? Yeah I do think that is lame and rather absurd. I couldn't care less what the writers looked like and in most cases how old they are because like I said before most magazines have editors that are seasoned and to be seasoned you have to have been around for a while. Most of these magazines are filled with 20-40 year olds doing most of the writing. If I cared about what the writers looked like I'd never get past the front page!

What really makes all of this a hoot is that this particular group of writers usually likes BMWs, homely editor woman included.

M

Fair enough!

Save the money to fix quality problems on your car... j/k...


Yes you did:

Which means: BMW can make a 5 mtrs long $h!t on 4 wheels, you'll still buy it, just because it's a BMW. You didn't say that, but you meant that, more or less...

Haha! My @$$! For some reason i don't believe you'd react different if it was the same opinion about the... New S for example?

You really think i'd be to her if she said all the best about it? Well, if so you're wrong! And honestly, this is the 1st time i hear about her...

Not trying to argue with you, Marcus, don't get me wrong. But i hate when some want to put me in that blind fanboys crew...

I really got sick after reading this article , my blood is stil boiling. That's why I don't read any canadinan jurnals, they are written by some idiots and amators....
I had X5 3.0si for test drive for four days, now I'm driving for last 3 years X5 4.4i, before I had X5 3.0i for 3 years. I think my opinion would be definitly more reliable. I just order my new X5 3.0si because I found it much better then old 3.0i, more sporty and very comparable to my 4.4i.
To correct their judgment I put some facts and my opinions.
First point - car doesn't feel heavy and ponderous compare to its predecessor, has 45 more hp and torque 225/310 lb ft/Nm (214/290 old);
Second - it's bigger, but not more heavy - maximum gros weight 2705 kg (2725 kg old);
Third - aluminium running board is propably more complicated for old and crippled peoples but is very helpful for my children and besides look nicer;
Forth - smaller trunk if you have 3-th row of seats but much bigger withaut and it has no spare wheel so it give you big compartment under trunk's carpet;
Fifth and last - this dump jurnalist propably drove (if ever - I doubt) for first time an german SUV, they are definitly more stiff and firm then american cars and this vehicul feels more sporty than 3.0i.
Other impotrant point to remember, this car has a lot of new technological features (stability control, i-drive etc.) also electronic park and start button. Some peoples my find it complicated and difficult. I personally like it.

Well that is what it looks like the minute you call a review that doesn't praise a BMW, "pathetic". It smacks of a typical fanboy response whether or not you are one or not. Like I said I called it as I saw it.

The S-Class hasn't been praised in every single review, some did find faults here and there, but the overall opinion, consensous is that the car is the best in its class. Hardly the same thing with the X5, at least so far.


You certainly wouldn't have called the review "pathetic", you would be thumbs up, if not bowing down. What she looks like is beyond irrelevant.


I understand, but your knee-jerk reaction (calling it pathetic) was of that variety, IMO. I was actually shocked because you normally don't do such things.

M

Just fyi, i'd react the same if she talked like that about new ML, or Q7 or in this case X5. You won't believe that? Fine! But you better do, 'cause i'm dead serious about that!

Yeah, ok, i should have used ML for example, sorry...


No i wouldn't!!! I don't give a damn what 60yo granny thinks about any car! Is it so damn hard to understand??? I don't care how she looks at all! She's old, she's a woman with one foot in the grave that got the opportunity to drive a high-tech SUV which is obviously too much for her and her opinion is irrelevant to me!!!


No i don't since this is the very 1st time i'm reading a review from a granny about high-tech car that just got out! People worked on this car for a looong time and then comes some granny that cannot even enter the car properly, let alone using and knowing how to use all the features in the car!

Pathetic? Yes, pathetic to let her judge the car!

For what concernes who's opinion would matter to me, above you have the opinion and expirience of siko's father, Mr. Bartek Sikorski, who actually drove the car for 4 days. Excuse me, but his opinion matters to me 10 times more than her's!

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I think i've made myself clear here and i won't continue this discussion. Next time when you and me, Marcus, will be discussing about this, will be when i get a chance to test drive one. It'll be very soon.

Now, let's hear what other members have to say, if at all...

If you say so, but I have my doubts.

A cheapshot.


Obviously, but I tell you what you'd better not go looking into who writes a lot of the reviews outside of the British editors eveyrone knows because a lot of them are her age, but I'm not sure how awful they look so you might accept what they say. Your resenment of anyone older is shocking, the woman probably isn't even 60 years old, hardly the 70+ you're making it sound. Now what about the guy who gave a second opinion and agreed with her? Is he too ugly and over the hill also? I have no idea myself, but I'm sure you'll find out for the sake of arguing your point. One foot in the grave? Dude are you serious? Shocking.

You think the majority of SUVs in this price range aren't bought by older folks with money?

Why because she is older than you and doesn't look so hot? Wow, someone tell all the older unattractive editors at all the BMW loving magazines they're no longer qualified to praise BMWs!

Wow and that is supposed to mean what? How old is his father? Wouldn't it be a kick in the head to find out he's the same age as she is or even close to it? At what age are you no longer qualified to give an opinion on an automobile, 50? 60? 70?, surely by then you're not able to even drive according to you.

BTW, I look forward to hearing about your test drive because I have never at any time said this review was "right" or that it was the end-all on the X5, my issues lie elsewhere with this.

M

The rule is to make your own decisions about a car and not based on carmags. Carjournalists are persons like you and me, they have opinions. But it doesnt mean their opinion is correct, everyone dont share their opinion.

To each his own what is wrong and right