Go Back   German Car Zone > Volkswagen > The Volkswagen Lounge
Home Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

This is a discussion on Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG within the The Volkswagen Lounge forums, part of the Volkswagen category; Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG Modern automotive technology is getting so advanced, and the timeline for ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-21-2007, 08:03 AM   #1
Contributor
 
Bartek Sikorski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Garage: 2008 M5, 2009 X5, 2008 335i convertible
Posts: 6,240
Thanks: 3,378
Thanked 7,559 Times in 3,228 Posts
Bartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond repute
Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG


Modern automotive technology is getting so advanced, and the timeline for development so short that an item exclusive to the sacred province of the upper echelon of motorsport a few years ago can be found in economical hatchbacks today - quite literally. Volkswagen’s seven-speed Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG) transmission is just such a technology. Offering the best of both manual and automatic standard transmissions, the DSG dual-clutch transmission is now available in the VW Golf and Golf Plus with seven speeds.

For those not intimately familiar with VW’s DSG technology, the basic concept is relatively simple to grasp. Imagine a manual transmission, but instead of one gearset there are two - one for the even gears, another for the odds - and each has its own clutch. That clutch is computer controlled, as is the gear selection, so that while you are in second gear and accelerating, the computer has preselected third on the other gear shaft and only has to disengage the clutch from the active shaft and engage the clutch on the inactive shaft to change gears, allowing a seamless transmission of power between gears. It works in reverse for downshifts, with the computer handling the rev-matching as well. In the modern DSG, the two gear shafts are not side-by-side, but concentric, one outside the other. This allows for smaller packaging. If that doesn’t help much, check out this video of the DSG in action.
The newest seven-speed gearbox (pictured below) going into the Golf and Golf Plus has two new features as well. In addition to being the first front-transverse installed seven-speed DSG, it is also the first to run dry clutches rather than immersing the clutches in oil. By running a dry system the newest DSG achieves even greater efficiency and can handle more torque - up to 250Nm (185ft-lb). The increased efficiency results in 0.7L/100km better fuel efficiency than its predecessor, the six-speed DSG (pictured above) when paired with the 1.9L diesel motor. To help drivers get a start in hilly areas, all DSG-equipped Golf variants also come standard with hill-start assist, which holds the brake temporarily while the driver switches to the accelerator to prevent the vehicle rolling back as it would with a manual.
Initially the unit will be available on Golf and Golf Plus models with either the 90kW (120hp) 1.4L TSI petrol motor or the 77kW (103hp) 1.9L TDI motor. The optional installation of the new gearbox will start at €1,750.
__________________
M -The most powerful letter in the world
Bartek Sikorski is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Bartek Sikorski For This Useful Post:
bmer (12-21-2007), cawimmer430 (12-25-2007), etlomotey (12-23-2007), Merc1 (12-23-2007), phaeton (12-22-2007), Tarek (12-23-2007)

Sponsored Links
Old 12-22-2007, 08:37 AM   #2
Contributor
 
Bartek Sikorski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Garage: 2008 M5, 2009 X5, 2008 335i convertible
Posts: 6,240
Thanks: 3,378
Thanked 7,559 Times in 3,228 Posts
Bartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond reputeBartek Sikorski has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

How DSG (S tronic) works

http://germancarblog.vodpod.com/video/659709-audi-how-dsg-s-tronic-works?c=sort.latest
__________________
M -The most powerful letter in the world
Bartek Sikorski is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bartek Sikorski For This Useful Post:
etlomotey (12-23-2007)
Old 12-23-2007, 03:24 AM   #3
Merc1   Merc1 is offline
Contributor
 
Merc1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Aurora IL USA
Garage: 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK430 Cabriolet
Posts: 15,642
Thanks: 5,226
Thanked 9,533 Times in 4,030 Posts
Merc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Nice, but it is time to see this in a high powered VW or Audi now! I'd love to see a R36 Jetta or Golf/Rabbit with the 280hp V6 hooked to this gearbox.

M
__________________
Merc1 Allstars: SLS, SL63, S65, SLK55, CL63, SL65 BS, E63, R8 5.2, S5, LP560, LP670, M3, Mulsne, BK, DBS, GT500, Gran S, 911, X6M, Z4, Veyron GS, XFR, XKR, ZR1, CC, GTI, CTSV, 458, 599.
Merc1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 07:54 AM   #4
Member
 
BarneyBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 67
Thanks: 7
Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts
BarneyBoy is on a distinguished road
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc1 View Post
Nice, but it is time to see this in a high powered VW or Audi now! I'd love to see a R36 Jetta or Golf/Rabbit with the 280hp V6 hooked to this gearbox.

M
Doesn't the Veyron use a version of this already?
__________________
GT Tornado Red
DSG, roof, iPod
BarneyBoy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 08:50 AM   #5
Monster   Monster is online now
Moderator
 
Monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 4,510
Thanks: 1,918
Thanked 2,803 Times in 1,303 Posts
Monster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud ofMonster has much to be proud of
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyBoy View Post
Doesn't the Veyron use a version of this already?
The Veyron does have a DSG gearbox, but it is design specifically for that car only, which has 4WD and longitudinal engine placement, plus this gearbox is built to handle the monster torque from the engine. I am sure VW/Audi engineers can copy elements of this gearbox design and incorporate them into their new gearbox in the future, especially for Audi. The E-gear gearbox for the R8 is mostly from the Gallardo and it is no way as impressive as the F1 gearbox from Ferrari.
__________________
Now officially an engineer
Monster is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 09:46 AM   #6
bmer   bmer is offline
Journeyman
 
bmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,535
Thanks: 6,012
Thanked 2,149 Times in 1,204 Posts
bmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant futurebmer has a brilliant future
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Monster is right. The Veyron's DSG-transmission was engineered by Ricardo while the other DSGs used in Volkswagen Group cars are from BorgWarner.
bmer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bmer For This Useful Post:
Monster (12-23-2007)
Old 12-23-2007, 02:41 PM   #7
Merc1   Merc1 is offline
Contributor
 
Merc1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Aurora IL USA
Garage: 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK430 Cabriolet
Posts: 15,642
Thanks: 5,226
Thanked 9,533 Times in 4,030 Posts
Merc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond reputeMerc1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Volkswagen shifts Golf into high gear with 7-speed DSG

Right I want to see them on Passats and more importantly Audi S and RS models.

M
__________________
Merc1 Allstars: SLS, SL63, S65, SLK55, CL63, SL65 BS, E63, R8 5.2, S5, LP560, LP670, M3, Mulsne, BK, DBS, GT500, Gran S, 911, X6M, Z4, Veyron GS, XFR, XKR, ZR1, CC, GTI, CTSV, 458, 599.
Merc1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
7speed, dsg, gear, golf, high, shifts, volkswagen

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Copyright ©2005 - 2009, GermanCarZone.com. All Rights Reserved.

SEO by vBSEO 3.3.1 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.