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200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 08:48 PM

I could have gone with 100 km/h-0, but I didn't for a number reasons, firstly being the there are far to many vehicles to list and, secondly braking from 200 km/h on a track like the Nürburgring is very important as it's a figure almost always acheived. The following figures below are from two magazines, Auto Motor und Sport and Sport Auto.

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* Meaning the vehicle was fitted with optional Ceramic brakes

119.6 – Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
122.2 – Pagani Zonda F *
126.1 - Reiter-Lamborghini Gallardo GT3 Strada
128.7 - AC Schnitzer M3 CSL
128.9 - Manthey Porsche M700
129.5 – BMW M6
129.7 – Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3
129.7 – BMW M3 CSL
130.4 – Porsche 997 GT3 *
130.4 - AC Schnitzer 6er Tension
130.7 – Porsche 997 Carrera S *
130.7 - Audi R8 *
130.8 – Porsche 993 GT1
131.6 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
132.5 – Porsche 996 GT3RS *
132.7 – Alpina Roadster S
133.0 – Callaway C12
133.0 – Lotus Exige MK2
133.3 - Cargraphic Porsche 996 GT3 RSC
133.3 - Lotus Exige 240R
133.9 – Porsche Carrera GT
134.2 - Porsche 997 GT2 *
134.3 – Lamborghini Gallardo Spider
134.5 - Porsche 987 Boxster S
134.6 - Porsche 997 Carrera Cabriolet
135.2 – Ferrari Enzo
135.6 – Ferrari 599 GTB *
135.7 – AC Schnitzer V8 Topster
135.7 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 *
136.0 – Koenigsegg CCR
136.7 – Maserati MC12
136.9 - Porsche Cayman S
137.3 – Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
137.3 – Audi RS4 MK2 *
137.4 – Porsche 997 Turbo *
137.4 - Wendland Porsche 997 Turbo
138.0 – Ferrari F430 *
138.0 - Mercedes-Benz SLK55 Black Series (Supertest)
138.1 – Ferrari F50
138.3 – Alpina B5
138.6 - BMW Z4 3.0 SMG
138.9 - Gemballa GT550 *
138.9 – Lamborghini Gallardo MK1
138.9 – Lamborghini Diablo 94
139.1 – Lamborghini Murcielago 6.2
139.2 – BMW Z4 3.0CSi
139.5 – TechArt Cayman GT
139.8 – Ferrari Challenge Stradale
140.1 - Chrysler 300C SRT-8 Touring
140.1 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Supertest
140.3 - Gemballa GTR 750 EVO
140.4 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano * (Supertest)
140.5 - Audi 2.0 TT TFSI
140.6 - Audi B7 RS4 Avant *
140.6 - Porsche 997 Turbo * (Supertest)
141.2 – Dodge Viper SRT-10
141.5 – Opel Speedster Turbo
141.5 – Porsche 996 GT3 *
141.6 – BMW E46 M3
141.6 – Mercedes-Benz C43 AMG
141.8 – Aston Martin V8 Vantage
141.8 - BMW 335i Cabriolet
142.4 – Ford GT
142.4 - Mazda 3 MPS
143.0 – Donkervoort D8 RS06
143.0 – Subaru Impreza WRX STi
143.1 - BMW 130i Sports Package
143.5 - Audi S3, 2007
143.6 – Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
143.6 - Lotus Europa S
143.6 – Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG
143.9 – Chevrolet Corvette C6
144.2 – BMW Z3 3.0 Coupe
144.2 – Porsche 996 Turbo
144.2 – Porsche 996 GT3 MK1
144.2 – Porsche 996 Carrera 2
144.2 – Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VII
145.3 – Renault Megane Sport Auto Trophy
145.6 – Aston Martin DB9
145.6 – Nissan 350Z
145.6 – TechArt GT Street
145.6 – Ferrari 360 Modena
145.6 – Porsche 996 Carrera 4
145.6 – Mercedes-Benz SLK32 AMG
145.6 - Aston Martin DB9 Volante
145.6 – Honda NSX-R
145.6 – Brabus CLK 5.8
146.8 – Aston Martin Vanquish
146.8 – Chevrolet Corvette C5 CE
147.0 – Audi S4 MK2 Avant
147.0 – Honda S2000 MK1
147.1 - MTM Bentley Continental GT
147.1 – Mercedes-Benz SL55 MK2
147.1 - Ford Focus ST
147.4 – Maserati GranSport
147.4 – Ferrari 575M Maranello
148.0 - Volvo C30 T5
148.1 - Honda Civic Type-R (07)
148.2 – Lamborghini Diablo Jota
148.2 - Digi-Tec E46 M3
148.4 – AC Schnitzer CLS II
148.4 – Volkswagen Golf GTi 05
148.4 – Ferrari 550 Maranello
148.4 – BMW Z8
148.8 – Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM
148.8 – Porsche Boxster 99
148.8 – Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG
149.0 – Volkswagen R32 MK1
149.1 – Aston Martin DB7 GT
149.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera *
149.2 – Mercedes-Benz SL500 (00)
149.4 - BMW E60 M5
149.4 - Jaguar XKR, 2007
149.7 – Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
149.7 – Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG
149.8 – Lotus Exige MK1
150.0 – Volkswagen R32 MK2
150.0 - VW Polo GTI Cup Edition
150.4 - Mini Cooper S, 2007
151.3 – Audi S3 MK1
151.3 – Audi RS4 Avant MK1
151.7 - Ferrari F40
151.9 - Volkswagen Eos
152.6 – Maserati Coupe 4200GT CC
152.9 - Abt -VW Eos
152.8 – BMW E39 M5
153.0 – BMW Z3M Roadster
154.2 – BMW 335i Coupe
154.3 – Audi 1.8 TT MK1 Quattro
154.3 – Subaru Impreza GT Turbo
154.3 – Mercedes-Benz C32 AMG
155.9 – BMW Z3M Coupe
155.9 – Lotus Esprit 350
155.9 – Volkswagen V6 4motion
155.9 – Maserati 3200GT
157.2 – Mini Cooper S Works
157.3 – Audi RS6
157.5 – Lamborghini Diablo GT
157.5 – Brabus CV8 Sports Coupe
157.5 – Aston Martin DB7 Vantage
157.8 - Peugeot 207 Platinum 150 Turbo
159.1 – Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG (00)
160.0 - Porsche 959 Sport Version
160.8 – Jaguar XK8 MK1
160.8 – Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VI
160.8 – Volkswagen Golf GTi 01
161.3 – Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
164.2 – Audi S4 Avant MK1
170.9 – Donkervoort D8 180R

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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 09:24 PM

BMWs outperforming Porsches with ceramic brakes?!? Weird?!
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 09:49 PM

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BMWs outperforming Porsches with ceramic brakes?!? Weird?!
Well in ceramic brake's defense....how cold was it when the car was tested...and did the brakes get hot enough to actually work. Remember that ceramic brakes work good when they get hot and are in the right temp range...thats why it's stupid to have them on normal streets.
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 10:12 PM

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Well in ceramic brake's defense....how cold was it when the car was tested...and did the brakes get hot enough to actually work. Remember that ceramic brakes work good when they get hot and are in the right temp range...thats why it's stupid to have them on normal streets.
Good point... it would make sense.
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 10:29 PM

Thanks for that Zonda FSR! Wow that Zonda F can really stop fast and so does the M6. Any idea where the E60 M5 falls on this list?
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 10:50 PM

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Well in ceramic brake's defense....how cold was it when the car was tested...and did the brakes get hot enough to actually work. Remember that ceramic brakes work good when they get hot and are in the right temp range...thats why it's stupid to have them on normal streets.
I understand your point on every aspect, but i will say than when these vehicles were tested they were tested when the brakes were heated up. However on weather conditions can be to blame too, possible cold temps and/or tyre temps can change the numbers.
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-02-2006, 10:53 PM

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Thanks for that Zonda FSR! Wow that Zonda F can really stop fast and so does the M6. Any idea where the E60 M5 falls on this list?
Yeah i missed it

It's 149.4 metres
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-03-2006, 08:42 AM

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I understand your point on every aspect, but i will say than when these vehicles were tested they were tested when the brakes were heated up. However on weather conditions can be to blame too, possible cold temps and/or tyre temps can change the numbers.
Tire compounds are the most important aspect of braking performance. More important than ceramic vs steel, pad compund and rotor diameter/thickness/construction. Most cars are supplied with a compromise tire. Some manufacturers put competetion tires on their cars for magazine road tests, esp the Italian exotics. The magazines don't tell you that. I'm suprised the GT3 cup wasn't more in the lead because of its slick Michelin race tires. That tells you how good the cars near it do on street of possibly R1 tires (tires like the Michelin PS cup, P-zero corsa, etc).
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-03-2006, 09:00 AM

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Tire compounds are the most important aspect of braking performance. More important than ceramic vs steel, pad compund and rotor diameter/thickness/construction. Most cars are supplied with a compromise tire. Some manufacturers put competetion tires on their cars for magazine road tests, esp the Italian exotics. The magazines don't tell you that. I'm suprised the GT3 cup wasn't more in the lead because of its slick Michelin race tires. That tells you how good the cars near it do on street of possibly R1 tires (tires like the Michelin PS cup, P-zero corsa, etc).
Yeah, agreed. Luckily Sport Auto tells you if different tyres have been used. The F430, Gallardo, V8 Vantage, RS4 and M6 were all using P-Zero Corsa's while the 997 GT3 was running on Michelin Pilot Sport Cups and the CLK DTM on Dunlop SuperSport. All of these tyres are optional, but road legal, so as you said it's amazing that cars like these can brake these figures. Some of the more amazing times, done by the Carrera GT and Zonda F were done using the regular Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tyres, which are standard and the only option available on both vehicles, now that is amazing.
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Re: 200 km/h - 0 (Metres) - 10-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Cars with low weight have an advantage over heavy cars.
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