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Tycoon, thats an inappropriate responce.
I make typos here quit often (and so do others) I only have 5-minutes to check every thread and about 3-minutes to post.


On top of that it`s Splenditenes.. not GTA.

The post seemed to offend you so I deleted it. lOl

lOl, I think Tycoon has spun this thread in another direction with a single typo... bad! lets get back on track.


In responce to Merc1
I think what GTA was trying to say is the V12 in the S600 is a 5.5iter twin turbo unit and that MB wouldn`t jump the gun (two liters) to create a 6.5liter unit. It should be a 6.0liter n/a engine with 520hp mated to a modified G7 tranny.

Whatever the case the next S600 engine shouldn`t surpass the 6.2liter M156 V8 with ultimate power numbers or size.

Actually, I think the next S600 should have at least 550 horses and the boatload of torque that comes with it, and the 65s should move into the 700+ power range, possibly with direct injection and 4 valves per cylinder technology. I think though that the S600 should be normally aspirated, whereas the S65 should be twin-turboed.

I see. Well I was thinking that they'd have to go to at least 6.5L for the next V12 if they're going the naturally aspirated route, but of course if it is still going to be a turbo then of course not. If they do to NA they'll have to up the size quite a bit to get anywhere near the torque level of today's 600 cars. I don't think we'll see the new V12 until facelift time, say 2010.

M

Yeah that is what I was thinking, if they're going to keep the 65 cars. I don't see the current S-Class being able to handle 700hp though unless they do some Black Series level re-engineering, which they might you never know.

M

Haha! I guess i own you apology, so here it is: Sorry, i apologize. Didn't mean to sound like an @$$, it was just a question, but obviously i've asked it in a wrong way. Sorry, my bad.

Just for the record, you always, always type it like that.

Sorry, for going OT, guys, not more.

Back on topic.

I agree with that, Thay would have to up the size.. the 5.5liter V12 puts out 612lb-ft of torque with the turbos. Lets say MB will stick with the turbos. The new engine I believe would still be a 6.0liter DOHC unit with about 530hp. The 5.5liter SOHC unit puts out 517PS (about 510hp) 550hp is simply too much of a jump
and if MB upped the size to 6.5liters that would make the S65 "useless" and also surpass it in size.

The S65 engine is a SOHC 5.9liter unit.

On top of that the name would have to change to S650 like the S550.

I wouldn`t want that to happen. Look how long Mercedes kept the S500 name. It`s been more than 20 years or more. Thay only changed it for the American market.

lOl, no sweat man.. it was like you blew a CAM shaft just telling me about a loose scew.. I was thinking what does this guy blow when he has to change his babys diapier, a crank case?!

LOL...

That PS looks awesome! It looks much better than the SLR.

Still, it has to be comfortable enough for the MB star so some compromises have to be made.