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Old 08-16-2007, 03:04 PM   #151
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The SLR wasn't a flop. The car has sold pretty well but MB made the same mistake as Porsche did with the CGT. Both of them wanted to sell at least 500 cars per year which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for a super car.

One of the key beauty in super cars is that they are rare and exclusive. MB and Porsche not only screwed that up by selling too many but owners suffers as well since their cars aren't as worth as much as they should be.

If MB plans on trying to milk the cow again by trying to move more than 500 Gullwings priced at 450k a year, the car will be ruined like the CGT and SLR.
I'm sorry, but that argument is total BS. If they wanted to sell that much cars, they would make a car that they think will sell that much. if that is not the case, the car is a faillure as it doesn't even reach half the expected salestarget. It's as simple as that.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:03 PM   #152
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I'm sorry, but that argument is total BS. If they wanted to sell that much cars, they would make a car that they think will sell that much. if that is not the case, the car is a faillure as it doesn't even reach half the expected salestarget. It's as simple as that.
They were a bit over optimistic with the sales. Heck even the spectacular CGT didn't reach it's sales goals. Like I have said before, the beauty in buying an overly expensive car is that you'll be one of the very few people with it and if the manufacture sell too many enthusiast will be turned off. It's as simple as that.

Ferrari is probably the manufacturer who know how to sell super cars. The demand for their cars are crazy but yet they choose to produce only a small number of them.

Ferrari F50: 349 cars
Ferrari Enzo: 399 cars
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:39 PM   #153
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They were a bit over optimistic with the sales. Heck even the spectacular CGT didn't reach it's sales goals. Like I have said before, the beauty in buying an overly expensive car is that you'll be one of the very few people with it and if the manufacture sell too many enthusiast will be turned off. It's as simple as that.

Ferrari is probably the manufacturer who know how to sell super cars. The demand for their cars are crazy but yet they choose to produce only a small number of them.

Ferrari F50: 349 cars
Ferrari Enzo: 399 cars
Ferrari is profitable too, so they know what they are doing. As far as I am concerned, there is very little argument in building a car, supercar or not, if it is not going to do something to the bottom line of the company. No responsible board of directors would authorize a project if the project did not have positive overall cash flow, whether the latter is achieved through profit or R&D write-off, or whatever other way creative accounting comes up with.

As for the argument that the SLR is not exclusive enough, I am sorry but I must object. I currently reside in one of the top 20 zip codes when it comes to per-capita income in the whole US, and I have yet to see an SLR on the road. Believe me, I do keep an eye out, although I am travelling most of the time. And it is not like my neighbors/hood does not have a taste for high-ticket MBs and other superluxury brands, cause they do.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:48 PM   #154
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Ferrari is probably the manufacturer who know how to sell super cars. The demand for their cars are crazy but yet they choose to produce only a small number of them.

Ferrari F50: 349 cars
Ferrari Enzo: 399 cars
Yeah..but they learned their lesson from the F40.

Ferrari originally said they would build just 400 some cars, but because of increased demand they decided to go out on a limb and produce 1,315. This of course very much annoyed customers of the first few hundred vehicles who expected exclusivity.

Come to think of it, the F40 was the first mass-produced supercar. So they're not completely innocent

Of course, things were very different back then... So once again, I'm not sure why I'm responding ()
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Yeah..but they learned their lesson from the F40.

Ferrari originally said they would build just 400 some cars, but because of increased demand they decided to go out on a limb and produce 1,315. This of course very much annoyed customers of the first few hundred vehicles who expected exclusivity.

Come to think of it, the F40 was the first mass-produced supercar. So they're not completely innocent

Of course, things were very different back then... So once again, I'm not sure why I'm responding ()
Yes the F40 production went a little out of hand. That is worth mentioning. Ferrari made a mistake and they learned from it.
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They were a bit over optimistic with the sales. Heck even the spectacular CGT didn't reach it's sales goals. Like I have said before, the beauty in buying an overly expensive car is that you'll be one of the very few people with it and if the manufacture sell too many enthusiast will be turned off. It's as simple as that.

Ferrari is probably the manufacturer who know how to sell super cars. The demand for their cars are crazy but yet they choose to produce only a small number of them.

Ferrari F50: 349 cars
Ferrari Enzo: 399 cars
true, but MB didn't do that, they made a car they believend would actually sell that much and it didn't, therefor it's a faillure.
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Is that mule based on Viper?
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I don't know what the hell we're looking at with this thing. I mean they seemed to have gone through a lot of effort to get Viper body panels to fit over whatever it is they're testing underneath. Then all the escorting cars are AMG models. Ridiculous. Look at how long that darn hood is! This "prototype" seems to be from another planet. It seems I hear the AMG V8 in the video, but still...this thing is all over the place it seems.

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