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Old 07-13-2009, 07:28 AM   #21
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think it's completely retarded and reactionary that BMW all of a sudden talks about CS again, because Jaguar has released a new butt-ugly XJ.

CS shouldn't have been cancelled in the first place, but talking about reviving it because of the XJ is just crazy. As if Jaguar is the company with such a great business model that BMW simply has to follow them They sold so many cars in the last 20 years.....
Jaguar is close to being bankrupt, but whatever.
IT's not entirely about the XJ but the format the new XJ has moved to compared to conventional luxury sedans. They have tried something different in the way the CS was different.
The purpose of such a car ( whether it would be resurrected) would be to focus on the format of the XJ a type of automobile concept that is different from a conventional luxury sedan.
It 's not a question of following Jaguar remember we had the CS first and the creative idea of a super luxury coupe-sedan for the luxury segment. The whole idea is out of the term "Post Recession" we have our ideas and many are in the pipeline regarding our compact image based models , but there will be people possibly a large majority of people wanting to spend serious money on a car that is the reason why the CS Concept has been mentioned in passing.


As T. mentioned a lot of the engineering work has already been carried out and the stasis remains promising because BMW directors talk about the CS , engineers , associates even the public and even dealers who had to return deposits the world over. T. says that he is still left in the dark on why we was asked how he would market it but there must be some reason for even bringing up the CS to the Conversation.

Of course the CS was one model in the armoury before the financial crisis hit. Other's were a Larger Z Roadster with folding Carbon Fibre Top and a top line Coupe model a stand alone GT aimed at the Ferrari F599.
The Roadster was designed and immitated the BMW California Spyder Project and the GT was on the drawing board. Designer were submitting first creative responses to the brief.

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Instead of building the CS as a financial low-risk image builder, BMW decided to enter the GT/PAS-Adventure throughout the line-up and achieved the exact opposite to an image builder. Congrats.

The 5er Gran Turismo - Progressive Activity Sedan was already in development when we conceived the CS. 5er GT is seen as a more personal choice for customers who do not want the conventional and you would be surprised how many are out there.
The GT is tracking exceptionally well with our dealers for a new BMW.
The BMW X1 is skyrocketing.

BMW "California Spyder Project"
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:30 AM   #22
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BMW has so AMAZING ideas and project but they cancel all the nice projects like CS, this California z, GT 4 and many other projects.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:36 AM   #23
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Forget about a lame CS. Produce sporty cars instead, like a Audi R8 competitior, M3 CSL, 135tii, a new Z8 and Z4 Coupé. Make impressive cars, not nonsense cars like 5er PAS, X6M.

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Old 07-13-2009, 08:53 AM   #24
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I think it's completely retarded and reactionary that BMW all of a sudden talks about CS again, because Jaguar has released a new butt-ugly XJ.

CS shouldn't have been cancelled in the first place, but talking about reviving it because of the XJ is just crazy.
Oh c´mon read this klier has said. How can a "simply" BMW fan think in a much more logical way than the entire BMW board?. I don´t see it too complicated to see.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:53 PM   #25
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^ lol I guess so. But as Just_me said, right now I'd rather see BMW making some sports cars again. CS was nice when introduced, but now I'd like to see something truly sporty again. CS is stunning, but still a big heavy boat. We have one already, the 7er. With M sportpack it's close enough.
That is, if I would have to choose. Both CS and sporty cars is even better
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That is, if I would have to choose. Both CS and sporty cars is even better
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clearly the new XJ has been causing pandamonium amongst BMW's shareholders for them to think of reviving the CS project. Jaguar will be pleased.

IMO, if the CS does suddently get the green light again it will be too late. The panamera, rapide, heck even the estoque and God knows what will be out by then. BMW will simply look like they're jumping on the badwagon. Rather go back to your roots and do what you're known for. Give the wolrd a lightweight sports car that is efficient and exhilirating to look at. Let the current and next generation of BMW owners have something to aspire to other then GT's and trucks.
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Old 07-13-2009, 06:14 PM   #28
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IMO, if the CS does suddently get the green light again it will be too late. The panamera, rapide, heck even the estoque and God knows what will be out by then. BMW will simply look like they're jumping on the badwagon.
I kind of covered that in my last post man. The main thing you're missing is that if BMW green lights the CS again, it will still be out before the Esoteque and may be by the time or just a bit after the Rapide since a lot of the engineering work was being done and the car was in development when it was stopped. It's not like they have to start from scratch, they will just pick up where they left off and may be add a few more engineers into the thing to speed up the process.
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Wow...all of a sudden...the XJ has made BMW try to bring back or at least ponder bringing back the CS. Right car, wrong time. IMO BMW needs to focus on small cars like the 1 series and X1, as well as cheaper small roadsters. The CS is a stunning automobile, but this just isn't the right time.
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It could very well be the exact right time. I think bad times are the best for bringing out the big guns, showing the world that "we can do it, because we want to". Initially, BMW took the stance that extravagance = a thing for later or the past, now, this could be a sign that BMW has changed its priorities. Regardless of the opinion of certain manufacturers, this phenomenon will give us a lot of great cars before the end of this economic slip-slide.
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