German Car Zone

One last thing:

We have a saying in Arabic, when there is smoke, there is fire. I believer, that BMW have had a high staff turnover, especially engineering department. Bangle was just announced since he is highly exposed to the press. I believe they are more resigntions that resulted in this.

If they have high turnover then perhaps they should give me a shot. Who knows, I could stick around to be up on the board someday.

The reason why someone with a PHD in mechanical engineering would apply for a job at BMW is to be involved in developing cars reminiscent of those posted on our walls when we were kids. If BMW don't give their highly qualified engineers the opportunity to exercise their skills, then a departure from the manufacturer is very much given. And now when BMW have left F1, there is not much motorsport in the suffix M. VAG, PAG, Nissan, Lexus, Ferrari and now Mclaren have currently exciting projects in progress that would very easily entice top BMW chassi engineers to jump the ship of stagnant development in sportscars.

I have yet to see the phoenix, and until there is some hard evidence the M1 and CS are just a myth to me.

I would have to disagree with all of this. This is getting ridiculous.

Lets think about this. If i were a BMW engineer and i was unhappy with the company's current projects, which company could i join? Porsche? No, cos they're gonna be merged with VW and they don;t even have F1. If i join VW, chances are, i'll probably end up working on the next VW van. Audi? no, cos FWD and RWD could never match the balance or purity of RWD that i've developed my career with at BMW. Opel? hahahahahah. Ford of Europe? maybe, but no where near the prestige of a BMW.

As someone who analyses and consults in the industry, i can assure you that no engineer would want to leave BMW or their existing car company. Given the unprecedented economic conditions, people are thinking to themselves how fortunate they are to still have a job. BMW is one of the only few that have not made massive job redundancies. In fact, all of their redundancies to date have been voluntary or come as a result of attrition.

The situation we are talking about must have occurred somewhere within the last 2 years .. while working on "currently" road going cars, not at this specific moment. So there is a chance that engineers left for Porsche, Audi, Lamborghini, Nissan ... etc

2 years back, all of the above were working on interesting projects,
Audi: R8 and Rs4/Rs6/TT-RS ..
Nissan: GTR
Lambo: the usual.
Porsche: Panamera & 911 variants.

And talking about Audi about being a FWD only manufacturer is complete ignorance. The RS4/RS6/S4 and TT-RS are all RWD biased and more hardcore than ever . Given their flawed chassi design, Quattro Gmbh has done a wonderful job.

And back at that day, what were BMW planning ? X6 ? 5 GT ? yeah quite interesting for a hardcore racing engineer.

Disagree, the OP was not referring to Engineering ranconfile, but to highly-sought-after-cutting-edge talent. In any industry, they can move and are motivated by more than just $.

Scott/ Eni please decipher this for us. At the announcement of the Formula 1 farewell to BMW, Chief executive Draeger said that BMW is increasingly focusing on sustainability. “…You'll see a sustainable product developed at the IAA in Frankfurt in a few weeks.. In the form of a concept car, “said Draeger. “BMW's Efficient Dynamics approach this time will show how efficient a sports car can be...” It will prove that sustainability is not only reserved to the powertrains, but also to the design and materials. "

I wonder what it is

I hope its something real good. Long time ago but now I feel excited about a BMW product again.

Vision Z.