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So, I wish you good luck with your new Porsche then.
But are you sure Porsche will continue to offer NA engines also in the future?

Since BMW will definitely NOT make a high-rev NA engine exclusively for you only.

No more high-rev NA engines from BMW. This book is closed.

Possibly not. As the Z2 has a target weight of 1000 kg.

I use the term "SuperSport" to describe the marketing concept.

Yes , there will be a regular performance model and a stripped out lightweight concept , M cars in all but name.


BMW are looking at various ideas to integrate exciting new vehicle concepts for the future, The future does not have to be entirely sensible.
Sensible drivetrains and engines of course but you have to make your product exciting enough so someone can relate to the purpose of the concept.

Will the 1er SuperSports Diesel feature an updated version of the 23d-engine? Or something completely new?
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The "SuperSports" diesels will be unique to the car.

Testing has already commenced in the X5 and 7er the first car to receive the engine will be the X5 sometime in 2010.

A lot of enthusiasts going to shop second hand eni no prob there. Let the mass buy new turbo s then the enthusiasts can buy the nice second hand real drivers cars.

I can manage a long time to buy second hand. After that i proberly stop buying cars and going to spend my money elsewhere.

Is 2010 sure? I heard something about end of 2011/ beginning of 2012.
Regards

Andreas

late 2010 , early-mid 2011.

The opposite treatment compared to that given to the X5M and X6M then? M cars in nothing but the badge.

Is said book closed in the same way the door was closed regarding turbo engines, 4WD and automatic gearboxes in M cars a couple of years ago?

And it's not like this is the end of the world for BMW fans either.
Sure, the BMW high-rev NA experience is unique, admirable and altogether mesmerising in its own right but it is also not the be all and end all.

It's special, sure and we fans will look back on it with fond and knowing appreciation. Nonetheless, the times they are a rolling. And, if I could recognise the benefits of modern turbocharging 10 years back then be assured that the technology has made such significant ground over that period that there simply isn't a business case these days for mass-market performance engines to be naturally aspirated.

Having experienced BMW's already outstanding N54 engine (now being superceded by a more efficient, more reliable, more tolerant N55) I can say that the future is rosy for BMW. These are times of change for BMW regarding propulsion technology - they are taking a few yet very big, risky steps at the moment as opposed to talking lots of small, established steps in the past. This is no longer incremental technology refinement and improvement for them; been there done that. BMW have now taken the plunge and we can expect to see significant developments in the turbocharging arena.

Sure, there are the rumoured problems with turbo heat-soak and engine limp-mode - all expected and resolvable.

AdvEvo, take solace in the fact that I've personally witnessed turbo'd STIs being tracked for over an hour at full tilt without going into limp mode. And that was in 34 Celcius at 1700m. So there's little doubt that BMW and their M division will be able to iron out the trackday gremlins.

As for 7000 rpm vs. 8400 rpm - well really this is just down to different spacing between the increments on a rev counter if you think long and hard about it.

Yes, again, I'll re-iterate that I will lament the passing of an era because of the specialness of the experience but at the same time I see no reason why we won't see a whole new generation of special turbo'd engines from BMW. The key success factor will be in BMW's ability to retain that "engine character" that so beguiled us till now.

If they can manage to build turbocharegd engines wit instant response and a good linear power output (this has yet to be done) and start making sporty cars again, there is no doubt this new book will be an instant bestseller!

So, very un-M like cars such as the X5 and X6 get called M products, and sporty cars like a lightweight 1 series....don't. OK.

I have a question will the next 3er convertibel and 6er convertabel get a softtop or a folding hardtop. I think a Softtop is better for four seatter cabrios.PLEASE give me an Info =D