Not wanting to get attacked... but the integrity of this ranking must be questioned if a car can go from bad to top of its class with no significent changes to the car over the year... It could be either way from the E class never was bad or what has happened now to change it from bad to top of the class??? Something just wreaks of inconsistency hear for me... I will most likely get bashed for this but i think this proves nothing about quality and I personally fail to see this as any recognition of quality statis...

What is the grade of the problems they encounter??? Do bigger problems get marked more harshly then small problems??? Whats the criteria??? Do they have one???

It is called a facelift. Removal of the the troublesome SBC brakes which most owners never knew about until they read about them being problematic. Only then did they complain. Now they can't complain about it anymore. The 2007 and 2006 models are different from each other in many small but detailed ways. Even the fit and finish is better in the 07 models. The 2003 E was as problematic as they say especially the 03-04 models. One look in the E-Class thread at MBWorld will tell the whole story. The 07's owners are a happy bunch, while the 03-04 and some 05 owners constantly talk about this or that going wrong. Some of it serious.

Do they have a criteria? Read the links given.

M

I can only speak for my own car, 3 months later and 600 mil på mätaren, not a single problem

Great Work Mercedes Benz then... My only problem is were are BMW... not from a fanboy position but from the compnaies that are infront on them... I work at the wesley hospital and there are about 30 BMW 5 series owners there and not one of them has had a quality problem.. yes we talk cars... I just find it strange that Mercedes can make such a massive leap and yet were i see significant proof of a qaulity vehicle the rating is seemingly low...

I guess next yrs survey will include the facelift 5 Series where as this survey doesnt???

All I can tell you is that stories about poeple who this and own that don't count when it comes to surveys. I have been though the very same thing with all types of Mercedes owners who say they've never had a problem, yet MBWorld is full of owners with problems. For your 30 to count they would have to been surveyed. BMW's quality problems have been well documented in this country especially upon the introduction of the current 7 and 5-Series.

That said, BMW has pretty much taken care of all that, but in this survey there is a criteria called "Overall Quality - Design", which means it looks at:

controls/features that are difficult to operate due to poor location).

Taken from the Initial Quality Study (IQS), which looks at owner-reported problems in the first 90 days of new-vehicle ownership, this score is based on problems where controls or features may work as designed, but are difficult to use or understand (i.e., overly complicated


I can bet you that BMW fell down on this part with Idrive. This has also been documented in Consumer Reports surveys also.


M

this is all quite true... thanks for your input Merc1

Great to see mercedes back on track... BMW there your kick in the butt you have needed for quite some while

No problems at all! .......... j/k

well i had a W220 no probs..now a W203 no probs..
so ofcourse we can sit down and tell about every single car we own seperetly..
but thats not the point here..
ppl know very well how JD works..
they used it to bash MB before..
now they can use it to give them Cred atleast..

thats my opinion on the matter..

lOl, here are the standing by JD Power

1.Mercedes-Benz S-Class Audi A8: Award Recipient (tie)
The S-Class has an edge with most appeal.

2nd. Place 2007 BMW 7-Series

3rd. Place 2007 Cadlliac DTS

4th Place 2007 Lexus LS460

It appears that the new Lexus LS460 is the quality bum at this point. The BMW 7er finished ahead of the new LS460.