Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva - Page 2

Deutsch · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche Guy

This car (I would assume) is going to use the same 6.7 liter V12 as in the Phantom, which produces 453hp and 531 lbft of torque. Compare this to the Bentley Continental GT with 552hp, 675 lbft of torque and roughly the same weight and you're not going to have a close fight on your hands. This RR coupe is going to much more of a luxury cruiser than the Bentley. The 100EX Concept, off which this more production ready version is based, was huge, much bigger than the Bentley. I'm fairly certain that this car is going to be larger than the Bentley. Also the car will not have the same prospective clients because people who can spend $160K do not necessarily have the resources to spend ~$300K on a car. The reason the Bentley is so successful is partly because it is so relatively cheap for the Bentley name. Don't forget that BMW designed the Phantom and I wouldn't call that car sporty.

Much of what you said is true. However, the RR Phantom and the 101 EX concept are very much two different cars, for more obvious reasons. Both the CGT and 101 EX are GT's, and you must not forget that horsepower only means so much. It has more so to do w/ how the whole car works together(engine & chassis mainly). The CGT is by no means a "sporting car", have you ever seen or heard a review where they seriously tried to throw one round, cutting the tail loose? No, and you never will, because it's a GT, grand touring. Which means that this car was built for the purposes of traveling in not only style, but straight line speed, lots of it. So in the end, both the CGT and 101 EX are very much in the same exact catergory.

Centurion · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 06:28 PM

The CGT has turned about to be the obvious choice for new selfmade millionaries but this RR coupe is something different and will probably cost over twise as much as the CGT. Not to mention being more bulkier and hard to get ones hands on. Additionally the RR coupe will probably be produced in a much smaller quantity than the all most over produced Bentley.

Deutsch · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 06:33 PM

I'm not trying to win converts to back what I'm saying, but what does quanity produced have to do w/ anything as far as competition? For that matter I guess you'd say the Audi's RS cars are in a different class than both M and AMG cars? It's the same difference really, though we are talking in singular terms of the CGT and 101 EX as individual cars.

So if they don't compete in the same class, the CGT and 101 EX, then what class/es do they fill in?

I'm not trying to win converts to back what I'm saying,

Osnabrueck · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 08:13 PM

Porsche Guy's analysis is correct.

The CGT and the 101EX share a great many traits, but by virtue of their respective price tags, don't slot in as direct competitors. Just as there's few people who can afford the GT's hefty price tag, there's even far fewer who can afford something costing twice as much.

There's been lots of talk in marketing-land about how to categorize buyers of such cars. The phrase bandied about has been "Super Affluent." If the new Bentleys are for "Super Affluents" then we could probably say that cars like the Maybach and the Phantom are for "Ueber Affluents" or perhaps, "Sultans."

It seems silly to call cars like the Conti or Spur "common", but in the LA area these cars have become such common sightings they're on the cusp of losing their exotic card.

siko · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 09:22 PM

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Michael · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 10:16 PM

I can't get over the presence this car posses in these pictures. I don't know what it would be like to see it in person.

If they do end up making it, it will definitely be a sucess. Measuring success for RR is not like what you would measure for Honda in selling Civics, nevertheless this would truly go down as one of the best cars ever made by them.

The car possess something so natural, vicious, but yet calm that I just can't pin point. Obviously you see a lot of its design cues coming from the Phantom but yet it seems like it is in a different level. It is like the younger brother of the Phantom that we are seeing here.

Sick! Sick!

Osnabrueck · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 10:52 PM

Hey, nice pics.

As if the Phantom wasn't crass enough, here comes something that's tantamount to a pile of gold bricks on wheels. It's ostentatious, disgusting and I want one.

SDNR · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Osnabrueck

Hey, nice pics.

As if the Phantom wasn't crass enough, here comes something that's tantamount to a pile of gold bricks on wheels. It's ostentatious, disgusting and I want one.

LOL - me too.

Those are the best R-R wheel rims I have seen - they will probably be on the production car I would expect, they look a lot better than the current options.

audi_rudy · **Re: Rolls-Royce 101EX @ Geneva -** 02-27-2006, 11:29 PM

This car is the definition of stlye at its best. If you take the time to go back and look over all the pictures in detail you keep on seeing new things that catch your eye. One of my favorite things about this car is the rear ward opening front doors. Might even be better than lambo doors

Deutsch · 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Osnabrueck

Porsche Guy's analysis is correct.

The CGT and the 101EX share a great many traits, but by virtue of their respective price tags, don't slot in as direct competitors. Just as there's few people who can afford the GT's hefty price tag, there's even far fewer who can afford something costing twice as much.

There's been lots of talk in marketing-land about how to categorize buyers of such cars. The phrase bandied about has been "Super Affluent." If the new Bentleys are for "Super Affluents" then we could probably say that cars like the Maybach and the Phantom are for "Ueber Affluents" or perhaps, "Sultans."

It seems silly to call cars like the Conti or Spur "common", but in the LA area these cars have become such common sightings they're on the cusp of losing their exotic card.

Nice analysis. I still stand by my words, though I agree, price wise they are not competitors. Would you say that the Z06 is not a competitor to the SL55 or vice versa, when the Z06 costs $60k less, and that's not the only car that costs tons more than the Z06 that has comparable performance. I rest my case.