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hey wimmer yes thanks i read your review and enjoyer reading it as usual

just a few things

how do you find driving it compared to a ml320cdi

and yes i am only thinking off the 320 cdi


alos what you think off a white r class because i heve never seen a pic off a white


i am thinking off white or silver

Well the ML and R-Class are two different cars when you compare them to one another. Both are great family cars, but the R-Class has the edge overall in that criteria. I actually felt the R-Class also handled a bit better thanks to a lower center of gravity and generally felt more tossable than the ML. It was also roomier, obviously. Both '320 CDI ML's and R's I've driven had very quiet engines with a high level of refinement, so picking the '320 CDI model is not a mistake at all.

The ML was an equally fun to drive car and the high seating position adds to that aspect. It's better offroad than the R-Class but I suppose that's not much concern to you, right?



White? White looks gorgeous on the ML and R-Class. In fact white looks very good on all Mercedes;.

thanks wimmer yes i am not worried at all off the offroad capabalaties basicaaly just the ride handling and interiro quality that important and the main thing is space for 7 people


i am thinking off a white wih beige or a silver with black or grey interior

at the moment the white is in favour


also just regarding pricing is the r more expensive than a ml in germany europe or usa

thanks again wimmer

Do you really need 7 seats? The 3rd seat on the second row is not that big from what I saw...

The R-Class was mainly thought as a 6-seater, the 7th is here just in case! Never sat in a 7seats R-Class, just saying that from pics. Maybe it is more the big side seats that give this impression that the 3rd is quite small.

I only sat in the pre-FL. The independant chairs are really comfortable, it is a really very pleasant car to live with. It gave me a roomier impression than the GL!

The finition, compared to the ML...hard to say. The dash and overall impression is better than the ML, however some details deceived me a bit. Some pieces were slightly out of place. It was mainly a feeling, and it was only the pre-FL.

As a passenger car, it is more or less unbeatable. And driving it is surely even more pleasant than the ML given the lower CoG and the more aerodynamic shape, so less wind noise. The 320cdi will have less work moving the whole, too.

I think if the look of it is not a problem for you (the FL is better, it has some AMG hints in it I find), it's a truly excellent car.

thanks coolral

yeah i need atleast a 6 seater and 1 seat for my nephew who is stilll 3 so essentailyy a 6 seater with 1 seat and maybe sometimes 7 adults

yes i did see in the pic the middle seat looks small but i was thinking maybe once the row is 2 gether 3 may be comfy


well on the looks side i havent even seen one in real so icant comment really i no its not the best looking car from pics ..but i really dont think its that bad looking a car maybe when i see one in real i will have a proper judgement..


i am thinking off white or silver what do you think...


also have u driven a r class or just sat in one ......


and yes if i but it will be a 320cdi ,, in this type off car what alternates you think their are besides a r

I've never driven an R-Class. Only sat into.

With the proper wheels (the 19", the same as the ML Pack Sport, for instance) it does not look bad. The front lights are a bit strange, ginving it a kind of surprised look...

It is not really good-looking either. It has a premium feel, a premium look, but it is not particularly attractive. The pics give a good idea of the car, only that it looks much longer and much higher than you imagine from the pics. It's quite big actually, especially the LWB of course.

I wouldn't take it in white, but it is mainly because here in Europe (especially in France) white is still uncommon for a private car. White here was the colour that only Sprinter, Transit and Traffic had, untill recently. Now it begins to change quite fast and you see more and more white cars.
So here my opinion is "geographically biased"

I only saw it in silver and black. I would take silver I think.
and for the interior, generally I like grey interiors. Black too, but I often prefer grey. I saw both in the R-Class, and both look good.

I don't really see any competition for the R-Class. The vans are far less luxurious and comfortable, whereas GL, Q7 and others are less roomy and less practical.

The interior is really impressive, clear and roomy, luxurious, very comfortable. The only problem of this car is really its van look. And the GL..
The GL looks much better imo, but is a more like a bigger ML. When you are inside, you don't really feel it is immensely vast. In the R-Class you do, it has a bigger legroom, headroom, everything-room.

I can't help you more, did not drive it...

If you really want to get a R-Class - get it in silver or black!!



But I think, silver looks most awesome - with tinted rear windows...etc. Like the 19' or 20' AMG rims. They can make the R-Class a good looking car. I don't know which seat options you'll have in south africa. But here in germany we can order it with 5 seats, 5+2 or 4+2!!

thanks ree and coolraul


yeah coolraul you have helped me a lot thnks

yeah i drove a q7 and gl just trying to get a ride in the r arranged befor i make a final decision..

i would like a gl but the price is a issue

on the q7 i found it a waste as far as a 7 seater or a suv is concerned the thing is so cramped i dont see the logic off a q7 for a family rather a gl anytime the q7 is too cramped and the 3rd row seats are for kids only with no lugage space after that


so now i need to drive a r and decide on white or silver irradium or cubanite

I am a new owner of an R350 and also just love it for my 2 teenagers and wife. I think most of the negative press I've seen simply comes from a lack of understanding / time with the vehicle. As before, Mercedes has created something that will be valued in the future more than it is presently. It's smooooooth to the max - and at mid-life age, who needs to have razor like handling - buy a Cayman if that's what you want. We still go to hockey games with the kids all winter.

A bit OT, but doesn't the ML come as a 7 seater?