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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 10:16 AM

So it can't still be in production..? or..?

Does it have to be a car which i personally owned, or can it be a car which i drove often but did not own.. ?

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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 10:48 AM

W210 E430: YOU PAY $55,000 USD, and you don't get a fricken CD PLAYER!!! A FORD has a CD Player...COME ON!!! And the Tape Deck thingy won't let you put in the Cassette Adapter for an iPod or anything else.

G55 AMG: Interior buttons and dash look like a C-Class...can Mercedes get any lazier and cheaper? I guess using the old A-Class interior coulda been worse but still...

Don't get me started on the G280....

Porsche 997 Carrera S: Interior...its like they're trying to be a luxury car, which sometimes is ok, sometimes I don't care. But these panel gaps in the dash could use some work, and this standard trim...its like brushed gray plastic....not aluminum.



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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 10:48 AM

I am not too crazy about the Porsche Tax. Parts for the car are more expensive than for other cars. Services at the dealership are more expensive than for other cars. A while back in another post I mentioned that my local dealership wanted to charge me $318 for removing 2 plugs, draining the oil, change the oil filter, put the plugs back on and pour new oil in. Gaskets, oil filter and oil plus "shop supplies", $70-$80 max, the rest (~$240) for a half hours worth of labor!? What's up with that?
There are not enough competent people to work on these cars. Lots of people who are dying to work on them saying they know what they are` doing, but in the meantime they are just fumbling around learning as they go, not to mention charging for all that learning time too. And enjoying the playtime.
Can't say much that is negative about the car though since I bought it because of the way it is. You could say that no power steering, no ABS, no ESP, no AC, or other new fancy things would be negative, but to me they are all positives. I guess the one thing would be that I don't think it would be very comfortable driving across this continent with my current car though, wheras I believe I would not have any problems doing so in a 996 or a 997.
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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 10:49 AM

I'm not sure if you mean with personal experience or not, so i'll go with personal experience.


Honda S2000 - 2000 model year

My dad had one of these fantastic sports cars back when we lived in Washington state and it was a car he had his eye on for a long time. Finally he was able to purchase one and my overall impression of the year and two month ownership is the car was fantastic but had it's faults (yes faults )

It's a shame i can only list one , most people might say the torque load of this car was it's main problem, me and my dad only found it to be a problem in heavy traffic, but where we lived (Port Orchard, Washington) a small town with just 7,000+ residents and little traffic the car was fine. A long overall trip from Washington state to California revealed once into heavy traffic (Walnut Creek, California @ dinner time) flipping with the some what notchy gearbox (opps another one ) to get the torque was somewhat annoying. However the torque load is not my main problem, it is the interior. Fantastic design and ergronomics, but some of the actual peices are less impressive. In particular, the carperting around the main console which looked and felt cheap, some of the plastics a little cheesy and lastly the speakers for the sound system were postioned right beside your knee so everytime you layed your knee to relax it rubbed against the speaker blocking the sound (thankfully, this problem was fixed in the 04 model)

I could list more problems.. but you only asked for one
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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 10:50 AM

Yea, can't complain about comfort in the 997...even with the Sport Mode lowered suspension setting.
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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 11:41 AM

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Don't get me started on the G280....
Underpowered, thirsty and rusty?
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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 12:28 PM

well i love the pagani zonda the most in the whole world..
now.. what bad is there to say about the car..other than the fact that i cant afford one??

hmm this is really hard..

ohh i just found something.. haha.. the speedo has a green light.. i do not generally like green speedo lights.. so maybe if they could change that..
but still i wouldnt really care..

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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 12:36 PM

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ohh i just found something.. haha.. the speedo has a green light.. i do not generally like green speedo lights.. so maybe if they could change that..
but still i wouldnt really care..

I was going with personal experience but of course the Zonda is my favourite car too, so maybe i'll write what i dislike about the Zonda F.

Firsty i love green illumnation for the dash

The only thing that i would call negative about the Zonda is that it may have too much torque Not that that's a big problem, in fact i think that's part of this car's appeal, i love it

But it does leave it two whole seconds behind the Carrera GT on Hockenheim.

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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 03:50 PM

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well i love the pagani zonda the most in the whole world..
now.. what bad is there to say about the car..other than the fact that i cant afford one??

hmm this is really hard..

ohh i just found something.. haha.. the speedo has a green light.. i do not generally like green speedo lights.. so maybe if they could change that..
but still i wouldnt really care..

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Thnx wimmer for your avatar.. it gave me a hint
Don't forget that it makes terrible espresso!
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Re: Pick your car and say one thing that is negative - 10-23-2006, 04:09 PM

Easy...

997TT, M5 M6, R8, SL65, Veyron, etc...

Negative thing: too expensive because I can't afford any of them!
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