Alright alright... - Page 4

Just_me · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 09:34 AM

A3 3.2 Q, R32 and 130i have similar prices. None of them are exactly cheap. You dont buy these cars cause you want practicality, then you buy yourself a A4, 3-serie or Passat.

and B-class isnt same kind of veichle.

warot · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 09:36 AM

[quote=Jono171]

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Originally Posted by warot

Don't get me started on the B-class or the R32. argh.

I'm positive that the 1 and the B are in completely different segments, and I'm sure the 1 series would beat the B hands down in a handling comparison. For now, I just take the B class to be an enlarged A - something for the Renault Scenic crowd to aspire to.

Well that's fine because that's why I asked the same question... but obviously the "too expensive" argument is done because a VW R32 costs the same... I mean this is BMW vs VW here.

Deutsch · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt is bomb

Not to be nit picking, but your avatar is an M6 rear....

I'm not sure about MB becoming Americanized but I know what you mean about BMW. Their design philosophy is controversial, and they know it. To Me MB tries a little to hard to be pleasant for everyone where as BMW builds to be awsome for some and ugly for others. They're bold with their styling, which is what mercedes lacks. They use hard lines where mercedes uses bubbly soft lines. I love mercedes, dont get me wrong, but the styling is too generic.

P.S. my friend had breakfast with Chris Bangle since he wants to become a designer for BMW. My dad has also met Bangle. I havent yet

But if and when I do i am going to SLAP him and then compliment his designs.

M5 = M6 = same difference

The Artist · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 12:28 PM

LOL warot why are you showing us pics of PS´ed cars and concepts to prove that they are ugly??

PS
My suggestion is that we should just jump over this discussion.. cause lord know i can pull out around 100 000 pictures of bimmers from very un flattering angles.. so lets just leave it at this:
Some love em some dont..

Just_me · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

PS
My suggestion is that we should just jump over this discussion.. cause lord know i can pull out around 100 000 pictures of bimmers from very un flattering angles.. so lets just leave it at this:
Some love em some dont..

I can do the same with Mercedes, this thread is worthless

warot · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

LOL warot why are you showing us pics of PS´ed cars and concepts to prove that they are ugly??

PS
My suggestion is that we should just jump over this discussion.. cause lord know i can pull out around 100 000 pictures of bimmers from very un flattering angles.. so lets just leave it at this:
Some love em some dont..

Deal... but the war is not over

j/k

The Artist · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 01:01 PM

LOL lets say so..
I remember we had a thread 7er vs S-class picture thread on GCF.. my god lets just say it was very hard on the bimmer.. and the fans.. it was almost like you guys where trying to ride a bicycle in sand..

BMW_Dude · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 01:02 PM

I found it very easy, there are many great pictures of the 7er, some not so good I agree!

Just_me · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 01:16 PM

Pictures isnt everything - real-life - is what matters -

Imhotep Evil · **Re: Alright alright... -** 10-20-2005, 03:19 PM

[quote=Jono171][quote=Imhotep Evil]
- M & SLK = boringly & blandishly overconservative, but very good with AMG.

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Geez, there's no pleasing some people! Here we have two examples of MB improving models exponentially over the previous generations. These cars are far from conservative. Both these cars have already achieved what their predecessors couldn't even dream about - up to date looks, high quality, prestige and a great drive. As far as I'm concerned, Mercedes is on the path to recovery.

As for the comment about over-Americanisation of MB design and influence, well, all I can say is as a car maker you'd be stupid if you didn't target your cars with specific appeal for Americans. Unfortunately, multinational companies can't afford not to tailor their products towards one of the biggest consumer markets in the world. It's the same with almost any other global product.

130i? It may be a great drive, but its looks are controversial, the practicality of which is expected by small car buyers is non-existent, and its damned expensive!

Well, I don't like the design, I do however like the enginering underneath.
Heck even I voted for the S klasse, but that's beacause of the car underneath, not it's horible IMO design.
And BTW, the X3 needs a package, like ACS to be acteptable to my eyes. And I never like the previous generation 5 series (except for the M5), nor did
I liked the FL previous gen. 7er.
In '97-'98 for me was like, how could BMW do something like this, ugly-fing two of my favorites car, those models who were perfection incarnated in my eyes. For my, it was Bangle who "saved" BMW's medium and big sedans.
And the 1er, is less practical than the rest cause it's RWD, not FWD like the rest. If it would have been FWD, it would have been a betrayal of BMW's philosophy and a competor for upcoming MINI models.
Even BMW top execs said, you wan't driving pleasure you buy the bimmer, you wan't space you buy a MB, Audi, VW or Opel. Yes, a BMW top exec said to buy Mercs and Co. if you want space.