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Old 05-18-2009, 05:09 PM   #101
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I would really like to thank you both NarutoRamen and Sunny. You are starting to open my mind. I have realised how stupid and narrow-minded I am. Don't say that I am not honest, because I am really telling you the truth.
No need for thanks or nothing. I just say what I feel too, so honesty is a plus. I don't believe you are stupid, thus I didn't call you stupid, I called you ignorant. Ignorance just means that you are ill informed about the topic you are arguing on. It seems that you have hit upon an illumination and I'm glad I (and sunny) could help. In all honesty, everyone in the world is in some state of ignorance, thus the reason we wage wars.

I've seen those videos. I'm not too fond of Lexus IS-F. I've driven the Lexus IS350Sport and it's quite fun to drive and dare I say on par with 3er unless you take it to the track. The IS-F is a let down though, they went the old AMG route which is "Let's give it a bigger engine, it's sure to be faster."
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:07 AM   #102
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I've seen those videos. I'm not too fond of Lexus IS-F. I've driven the Lexus IS350Sport and it's quite fun to drive and dare I say on par with 3er unless you take it to the track. The IS-F is a let down though, they went the old AMG route which is "Let's give it a bigger engine, it's sure to be faster."
The AMG route... Hmmm... I think we can see it not only between the IS-F and the current M3, but also between the C63 and the E92 M3. More power and more torque. Of course it will surely be faster--on the straight road. Getting through the corners is a different story... It is a different discipline as we all know it. But that is not to say that AMG and Lexus are not good cars to own.
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I don't like the IS-F, mainly because of the bodykit.
But honestly, as a first attempt at power-sedans... it's a truly impressive achievment.
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The AMG route... Hmmm... I think we can see it not only between the IS-F and the current M3, but also between the C63 and the E92 M3. More power and more torque. Of course it will surely be faster--on the straight road. Getting through the corners is a different story... It is a different discipline as we all know it. But that is not to say that AMG and Lexus are not good cars to own.
You got me wrong here. I'm not saying that F-brand guys are copying current AMG. What I'm saying is they are going with AMG's old philosophy. The new AMG philosophy actually has more to do with driving dynamics than just straight up engine power. So, IS-F has entered a new era with old world thinking.

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I don't like the IS-F, mainly because of the bodykit.
But honestly, as a first attempt at power-sedans... it's a truly impressive achievment.
I don't like the body kit either. The car does sound pretty good in person though, loud and thunderous. I would say it's a pretty good try for first timers, but then again, it is aimed at their customers.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:38 AM   #106
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I have some question. But this is just a plain question ok? Take a look at this one first:

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Now for the question. If the GTR really was faster, why was it not able to beat those three cars in all areas? Share us your thoughts, comments, insights, etc.
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You got me wrong here. I'm not saying that F-brand guys are copying current AMG. What I'm saying is they are going with AMG's old philosophy. The new AMG philosophy actually has more to do with driving dynamics than just straight up engine power. So, IS-F has entered a new era with old world thinking. --> Got it
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