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Leeched this off another forum, pretty juicy information.


"20?? Ferrari FX70, the successor to the Enzo is well into the early stages of design, and the car should be a break from traditional supercars in this class. The car is expected to be lighter, as well as more compact then alot of cars in it's class. The rumors once suggested that Ferrari had a 7.0 liter normally aspirated V-12 producing 900 BHP, but this has been prove untrue thanks to the new emissions regualtions, Ferrai has 2 other choices that will power the new Prancing Horse. First of these 2 choices are high-revving Direct injection twin-turbo 4.0 V-8 good for roughly 700 BHP, the second choice is a high revving Direct injection twin-turbo 4.6 liter V-12 producing as much as 800 BHP. Both are very good choices but I prefer to see Ferrari's supercar stay with the V-12, with body panels slated to be a comdination fo carbon fiber and RTM( Fiber Glass almost as light and strong as carbon fiber).

20?? Lamborghini JOTA, the successor to the Murcielago is slated to be lighter, as well as more powerful then it's predessors. This car will switch to a aluminum spaceframe changing from the current Lamborghini's steel tub frame. This car will be more compact, and wil still offer a great performence, and overall speed. The engine of choice will be a Direct injection 6.0 liter V-12, a engine based on a stretched Gallardo V-10, with a claimed horsepower rating of 700 BHP. Also expect this car will take a new styling direction closer to that of the Reventon, with all body panels made of cabron fiber and aluminum. Also expect the usual varients of this model, such as a GT/SV/LP.

20?? Mercedes SLC, the successor to the SLR( despite what many think). This model is currently in the devleopment stages with a concept slated to be shown at the upcoming Geneva Autoshow. This model will make use of several different versions of AMG's handbuilt 6.2 liter V-8, with the base model slated for a 600 BHP version, with 2 twin-turbo versions ranging from 750 BHP, and a even more extreme version with close to 1000 BHP. With the body panels made of carbon fiber, expect this model to be truly extreme supercar. The power will be transferred to the road via a 7 speed F1 style paddle-shift transmission. If all goes well with the SLC, Mercedes is prepared to develop a low volume production of sports and supercars with HWA, with a second model already in the planning, a true mid-engine supercar powered by the twin-turbo 6.2 liter V-8 producing over 1000 BHP, this model is codenamed StreamLiner, and could possibly be partnered with the Aston Martin NPX supercar.

20?? McLaren P11, the nect inline supercar from McLaren. This car will not be a competitor to the F430 and Gallardo, it will actually be in a class above those 2 models. The engine for this model will be a high revving Hand-built AMG 6.2 liter V-8 producing 620 BHP. This model will also offer a cabriolet version , and could also see a second model spun off of it with even more horsepower.

20?? Pagani C9, the successor to the Zonda . This model will be wider, and slightly longer then the Zonda for improved cockpit room as well as storage. This car is currently in the devleopment stage, and was slated for the first public showing at a upcoming autoshow this year, but with the Zonda R being delayed, we might not see this car until late this year or early next year. The power for this car will come from a new AMG co-developed with Pagani V-12 producing 700 BHP, and 627 lbs feet of torque, with all of that going to the rear wheels through 2 different transmissions, the first is a traditional 6 speed manual, the second is a sequetial shift transmission that would operate like a F1 style transmission. Either way both will send this supercar to a topspeed above 210 MPH.

20?? Saleen, a new sportscar is slated to either replace or accomany the S7 successor, this model will be powered by a Ford Racing 302(5.0 liter) V-8 producing 525 BHP, in normal aspirated form, and 600 BHP in twin-turbo form. This model will send the power to the rear wheels via a 6 speed manual transmission. Expect this cars body to be made of carbon fiber, and aluminum.

20?? Spyker, is currently looking for a new engine deal that will see more performence then that found in the Audi sourced V-8, and W-12's. The rumors have it that Spyker have started talks with Chrysler and Ford, for a engine deal. The bodies for these new Spykers are slated to be made of aluminum as they currently are, with a 6 speed manual transmission also sourced from the respective companies that will supply the new engines.

20?? Ascari, is currently planning a new model that will be a even more extreme sportscar then the KZ-1 and A10 powered by a BMW sourced M series V-10, with power going to the rear wheels via a 6 speed manal as well as sequential **** transmission.

This is not a supercar that is coming to market, but I figured that everyone needs to hear about. I believe everyone knows that Rolls-Royce has been planning a land-speed record challenging car. As I have heard it, this car will be powered by a twin-turbo version of the EX100's 9.0 liter V-16, that will produce 1000 BHP, at the rear-wheel. The power will be sent to the rear-wheels via a 7 speed F1 transmission.

20?? Prodrive developed NPX, Aston Martin's next sportcars. I have heard that it will be a mid-engine supercar, with a horsepower rating of 800 BHP from a Prodrive developed race developeddirect injection V-12 displacing 6.0 liter, with Prodrive also developing a engine of the same displacement, with less horsepower for the offical Vanquish successor the DBX . I have heard Aston Martin could be looking to develop several models with Mercedes-Benz, with Prodrive recieveing help from AMG/HWA for building the NPX ona shared mid-engined carbon fiber monocoque with a purposed Mercedes CLR supercar. I ca't leave out the latest news on the DBX, this model will bea new design direction for Aston Martin, with a 7 speed sequetial transaxle send power to the road. The engine that is being developed for the DBX is a lower revving 6.0 liter Prodrive developed V-12 producing 700 BHP. and could share a chassis and components with the 20??SLC.

20?? Bugatti, a successor to the Veyron, is currently under discussion at VAG, with a planned sportscar codenamed Project Lydia. Many articles have stated that Bugatti wll not bring this model to production, but I believe they will, just not in the extreme form that those articles have mentioned. I figure a quad-turbo V or W-12 producing about 800 BHP, would be more practical, then another 1000+ BHP hypercar, and could be easily serviced if needed at a Bentley dealership. I will say that if this models sees production it will share it's chassis and drivetrain with Lamborghini's Murcielago successor, and the body anels will be made of carbon fiber and aluminum also, however don't exept this model to have scissor doors like the EB110. I have said on several occassions that Bugatti would replace the Veyron with 2 models, not just 1. The second model would be a 4 door coupe, witha GT 2+2 cockpit, roughly sized between the Maybach 57 and 62, that will offer plenty of leg room, for a super-luxury saloon of this class. Expected to power this luxury liner is a purposed quad-turbo 8. 0 liter W-16 producing roughly 850 +BHP, and should spawn a 2 door cabriolet and coupe in the vein of the Atlantic coupe.

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Pagani, will make use of the SLR 722 McLaren's 5.5 supercharged engine that should be good for roughly 680 BHP in this lighter mid-engine chassis. The car will still produce 627 lb feet of torque. Also expect the body to be lower and more aerodynamic then the Zonda. The interior will be the usual mix of hand-stitched leather, aluminum and carbon fiber.Expect this car to feature active aerodynamics to create more down force.

McLaren is in the early shakedown of the P11 chassis, which will be a true mid-engine layout sportscar., The recnt news is very true about McLaren developing a even more extreme supercar the P12 off the same carbon fiber monocoque with aluminum crash/sub frames, to be powered bya race derived V-10! The recent news that I have heard puts McLaren working with Ilmor Engineering instead of Mahle/Cosworth to build and develop these Mercedes designed engines. This is very true, because roughly 3 years ago Mercedes had planned to build and develop a twin-turbo 4.5 liter V-10, with a 6.0 liter naturally aspirated version from AMG, but both of these engines were cancelled do to the F1 engine changing, and instead of being caught with these engines in there line-up like BMW, they were cancelled and instead the 6.2 liter AMG V-8 was accepted in it's place.

Mercedes-AMG SLC rumors suggest that it will carry the AMG developed 6.2 liter V-8 producing 570 BHP and 445lb feet of torque, are somewhat true, the engine can produce that much, but I have recently heard that Mercedes-AMG are working on another engine that will be in the AMG line-up by the time the SLC reaches production. There have been rumors that the Project C197 could be given the name of the SLR, since McLanre-Mercedes will be stoping production mid year, which will make it so that Mercedes will not have to re-register thr SLR nameplate for this model. The aluminum spaceframe that will be used on the C197 will be very light and rigid, weighting less then 800 lbs. he body panels for this car will be mostly carbon fiber, with the doors and roof made of aluminum, with the front wings, hood, trunk, and rear wings made of carbon fiber. The cockpit will feature a new direction for a sportscar built in this class, with the focus beign on the driver. Expect the car to feature carbon fiber seat frames."
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Re: Ferrari FX70, Mercedes SLC, Mclaren P11, Pagani C9, Lamborghini JOTA - 05-21-2008, 07:18 AM

Well i dont know about the other cars..
but he is wrong about the pagani..
so ile take the rest with a pinch of salt..
but damn its fun to dream about new sportscars
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Re: Ferrari FX70, Mercedes SLC, Mclaren P11, Pagani C9, Lamborghini JOTA - 05-21-2008, 08:18 AM

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"20?? Ferrari FX70, the successor to the Enzo is well into the early stages of design, and the car should be a break from traditional supercars in this class. The car is expected to be lighter, as well as more compact then alot of cars in it's class. The rumors once suggested that Ferrari had a 7.0 liter normally aspirated V-12 producing 900 BHP, but this has been prove untrue thanks to the new emissions regualtions, Ferrai has 2 other choices that will power the new Prancing Horse. First of these 2 choices are high-revving Direct injection twin-turbo 4.0 V-8 good for roughly 700 BHP, the second choice is a high revving Direct injection twin-turbo 4.6 liter V-12 producing as much as 800 BHP. Both are very good choices but I prefer to see Ferrari's supercar stay with the V-12, with body panels slated to be a comdination fo carbon fiber and RTM( Fiber Glass almost as light and strong as carbon fiber).
The FXX program was suppose to help develop the Enzo successor, and the engine in the FXX was suppose to power the new car. Guess it an't going to happen then. I heard Ferrari are going to use carbon fibre wishbones for the suspension, similar to their F1 cars.
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Re: Ferrari FX70, Mercedes SLC, Mclaren P11, Pagani C9, Lamborghini JOTA - 05-21-2008, 08:24 AM

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I heard Ferrari are going to use carbon fibre wishbones for the suspension, similar to their F1 cars.
Sounds plausable since I have read rumors about the car being named millelici(spelling?) which means 1000 in Italian, 1000kg super car???
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Re: Ferrari FX70, Mercedes SLC, Mclaren P11, Pagani C9, Lamborghini JOTA - 05-21-2008, 10:24 AM

Millechilli. And this concept has already been shown I think.
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