Go Back   German Car Zone > Website Forums > The Pit - General Discussion
Home Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


My second time at a track

This is a discussion on My second time at a track within the The Pit - General Discussion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie I still think that the handling superiority the M3 has over the C55 can only ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-23-2007, 01:52 AM   #21
Just_me   Just_me is offline
Me for President
 
Just_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Garage: Rear Wheel Drive
Posts: 20,488
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 7,290 Times in 2,989 Posts
Just_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie View Post
I still think that the handling superiority the M3 has over the C55 can only be taken advantage of by the most skilled/experienced track drivers. For the average Joe, the C55 may actually be easier to driver faster around a track.
I agree but the C55 uses Automatic (despite having manual mode), no fun and controllable as a manual. also, easier doesnt mean its the most fun car to drive or the feeling is the same but most important of all, I would have beaten you
__________________
BMW M (that’s for Marketing, not Motorsport)

Post your BMW Frankfurt photos here:
http://www.germancarzone.com/bmw-lou...re-thread.html
Just_me is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old 04-23-2007, 02:16 AM   #22
Executive
 
Centurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: London.
Posts: 15,722
Thanks: 2,308
Thanked 4,455 Times in 2,232 Posts
Centurion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
also, easier doesn't mean its the most fun car to drive
In some cases it does, especially for normal people who aren't very skilled and don't know how to handle a car with ESP turned off or power slide with a RUF RT12 in a tight bend.
Centurion is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 02:20 AM   #23
Just_me   Just_me is offline
Me for President
 
Just_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Garage: Rear Wheel Drive
Posts: 20,488
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 7,290 Times in 2,989 Posts
Just_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luwalira View Post
In some cases it does, especially for normal people who aren't very skilled and don't know how to handle a car with ESP turned off or power slide with a RUF RT12 in a tight bend.
then they shouldnt buy a sportcar in the first place . "fun" can be many things, not nessecary powerslides.
__________________
BMW M (that’s for Marketing, not Motorsport)

Post your BMW Frankfurt photos here:
http://www.germancarzone.com/bmw-lou...re-thread.html
Just_me is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 02:29 AM   #24
Executive
 
Centurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: London.
Posts: 15,722
Thanks: 2,308
Thanked 4,455 Times in 2,232 Posts
Centurion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond reputeCenturion has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
then they shouldnt buy a sportcar in the first place . "fun" could be many things, not nessecary powerslides.
If you ask me, power sliding is the epitome of fun on a track, people love it, which is why some manufacturers allow us to turn it off so that we can do just that.
Centurion is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 10:41 AM   #25
Advocate
 
PC Valkyrie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canada
Garage: German cars
Posts: 846
Thanks: 0
Thanked 645 Times in 216 Posts
PC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of light
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
I agree but the C55 uses Automatic (despite having manual mode), no fun and controllable as a manual. also, easier doesnt mean its the most fun car to drive or the feeling is the same but most important of all, I would have beaten you
Oh come on, you're sounding like a blind fanboy again.....LOL

Didn't you read about what I said about the M mode? You have complete control over the gear selection in the C55 and you can shift with buttons/paddles on the back of the steering wheel. It's like driving with SMG, except that the shifts are not as quick as the S6 mode of SMGII.

Although M mode is nice, there really isn't that much shifting that's required for short tracks. Only gears 2, 3, and 4 were used at my track event. Most of the time, I left the transmission in S (sport automatic) mode. AMG Speedshift is a "smart" performance tuned automatic transmission. After a few laps, the transmission knows you're pushing it. It actively downshifts under heavy braking, it then HOLDS the gear during corner entry and corner exit so there isn't the unwanted upshifts during a corner which could upset balance. It's not perfect, but good enough for a newbie driver like myself to catch the attention of some BMW M3 drivers......LOL.

You think you can't have fun in a C55? Let me tell you that you can have fun in almost any car that's capable of the acceleration and cornering ability of cars like the M3, C55, S4/RS4. Heck, you can even have fun in a Civic Si. On a track, you can do things at speeds which you could NEVER do on the streets.
__________________
2004 A4 1.8T Avant Quattro
2005 C55 AMG
2008 135i M Sport
PC Valkyrie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to PC Valkyrie For This Useful Post:
Centurion (04-23-2007)
Old 04-23-2007, 11:23 AM   #26
Just_me   Just_me is offline
Me for President
 
Just_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Garage: Rear Wheel Drive
Posts: 20,488
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 7,290 Times in 2,989 Posts
Just_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie View Post
Oh come on, you're sounding like a blind fanboy again.....LOL

Didn't you read about what I said about the M mode? You have complete control over the gear selection in the C55 and you can shift with buttons/paddles on the back of the steering wheel. It's like driving with SMG, except that the shifts are not as quick as the S6 mode of SMGII.

Although M mode is nice, there really isn't that much shifting that's required for short tracks. Only gears 2, 3, and 4 were used at my track event. Most of the time, I left the transmission in S (sport automatic) mode. AMG Speedshift is a "smart" performance tuned automatic transmission. After a few laps, the transmission knows you're pushing it. It actively downshifts under heavy braking, it then HOLDS the gear during corner entry and corner exit so there isn't the unwanted upshifts during a corner which could upset balance. It's not perfect, but good enough for a newbie driver like myself to catch the attention of some BMW M3 drivers......LOL.

You think you can't have fun in a C55? Let me tell you that you can have fun in almost any car that's capable of the acceleration and cornering ability of cars like the M3, C55, S4/RS4. Heck, you can even have fun in a Civic Si. On a track, you can do things at speeds which you could NEVER do on the streets.
and people whine on SMG for not being as fun as a manual so yes Im allowed to whine on an automatic. Please do me a favor, tell those who complain on SMG to be quiet

sure you can have fun in a C55, I have had lots of fun in a C43 AMG down to Golf GTi so I believe you, so dont try to tell my something I havent said

I still stand with what I said earlier, easier doesn't mean its the most fun car to drive. No fanboy talk, just the truth.


and I challenge you, I will beat you on any track even if I drive your C55 Welcome to Sweden!
__________________
BMW M (that’s for Marketing, not Motorsport)

Post your BMW Frankfurt photos here:
http://www.germancarzone.com/bmw-lou...re-thread.html
Just_me is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 11:26 AM   #27
Advocate
 
PC Valkyrie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canada
Garage: German cars
Posts: 846
Thanks: 0
Thanked 645 Times in 216 Posts
PC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of lightPC Valkyrie is a glorious beacon of light
Re: My second time at a track

haha.......for me, part of the great fun and pleasure that track day was being FASTER than some M3's. Who knows, maybe I may have gone even faster if I drove an M3!!
__________________
2004 A4 1.8T Avant Quattro
2005 C55 AMG
2008 135i M Sport
PC Valkyrie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 11:29 AM   #28
bum-man   bum-man is online now
Devotee
 
bum-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,699
Thanks: 421
Thanked 540 Times in 295 Posts
bum-man is just really nicebum-man is just really nicebum-man is just really nicebum-man is just really nicebum-man is just really nicebum-man is just really nice
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
I agree but the C55 uses Automatic (despite having manual mode), no fun and controllable as a manual.
Oh please, it's no more fun than flicking the paddles on a SMG equiped BMW.
bum-man is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 11:30 AM   #29
Just_me   Just_me is offline
Me for President
 
Just_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Garage: Rear Wheel Drive
Posts: 20,488
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 7,290 Times in 2,989 Posts
Just_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie View Post
haha.......for me, part of the great fun and pleasure that track day was being FASTER than some M3's. Who knows, maybe I may have gone even faster if I drove an M3!!
the most important with that day is that it was an success and you had extremely fun with your car and thats what you had

Nice photos btw, Z4 Coupe is my favorite on those photos
__________________
BMW M (that’s for Marketing, not Motorsport)

Post your BMW Frankfurt photos here:
http://www.germancarzone.com/bmw-lou...re-thread.html
Just_me is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2007, 11:31 AM   #30
Just_me   Just_me is offline
Me for President
 
Just_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden
Garage: Rear Wheel Drive
Posts: 20,488
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 7,290 Times in 2,989 Posts
Just_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond reputeJust_me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: My second time at a track

Quote:
Originally Posted by bum-man View Post
Oh please, it's no more fun than flicking the paddles on a SMG equiped BMW.
Oh please Bum-man stop being a fanboy BTW lighten up you serious man, Carpe diem!
__________________
BMW M (that’s for Marketing, not Motorsport)

Post your BMW Frankfurt photos here:
http://www.germancarzone.com/bmw-lou...re-thread.html
Just_me is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook!Google Bookmark this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Tweet This!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
time, track

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Video: 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo and BMW Z4 M Roadster Track Time Just_me Sound and Vision 1 03-20-2007 11:39 AM
BMW E92 3er Coupe: official PR text & info. EnI 3 Series 269 07-02-2006 06:27 PM
Monaco GP BMW_Dude Formula 1 58 06-02-2006 05:07 AM
EVO: Fast club 2006 (Z06,997S,RS4,M6,Gallardo etc etc) Just_me Internal Combustion 10 04-10-2006 09:09 PM
Champions of the world: curse Alx Formula 1 0 01-26-2006 12:32 PM



Copyright ©2005 - 2009, GermanCarZone.com. All Rights Reserved.

SEO by vBSEO 3.3.1 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.