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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 06:14 AM

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Looks more like Yannis announced such results ..
It just happens that i am ahead of my time. Mercedes used to be the No1, BMW is now the No1 , Audi will be the next No1.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 10:24 AM

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Im not crying. Audi and BMW deserve the success they have achieved, and MB deserves what they got after many years of crap reliability and cars that simply did not justify their price premiums.

Somone in Germany please posts a copy to MB Headquarters. Make sure they read it and weep.
At which point they will pull out the sales reports, as well as projected sales figures for the fairly newly released SLK, ML and R-class, and laugh?

I don't think that Mercedes would be worried about this. Honestly, congratulations to those who won, but this is a relatively small sample, and not a very representative sample either. I suppose it wouldn't hurt them if their cars were more appealing to people who read car magazines, but I doubt it's keeping them awake at night.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 11:10 AM

IMO Volkswagen has the best advertising of all German carmakers.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 01:38 PM

Seems like a very fair survey!

Everything looks pretty right too me!
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 03:26 PM

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I don't think that Mercedes would be worried about this. Honestly, congratulations to those who won, but this is a relatively small sample, and not a very representative sample either.
Ninenty thousand people are a SMALL SAMPLE? JD Power uses around 50 thousand owners as sample for the initial quality survey. That is not a representative sample either cause only those who mail back the form participate?
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 03:31 PM

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Ninenty thousand people are a SMALL SAMPLE? JD Power uses around 50 thousand owners as sample for the initial quality survey. That is not a representative sample either cause only those who mail back the form participate?
Yeh they mail thier survey's and a new $1. dollar bill to new car buyers, and the survey is pretty thorough, my fiance filled out ours on the FX. I would definatley trust thier survey, probably the most thorough! imo.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 05:32 PM

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To me it isn't that suprising, the result is from a public survey and very opinionated and therefor suprises are inevitable. Just like The H3 got a better ranking like the RR sport.
lOl! What more could you expect from a public survay with most
people who are uneducated about cars anyway.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 05:35 PM

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At which point they will pull out the sales reports, as well as projected sales figures for the fairly newly released SLK, ML and R-class, and laugh?

I don't think that Mercedes would be worried about this. Honestly, congratulations to those who won, but this is a relatively small sample, and not a very representative sample either. I suppose it wouldn't hurt them if their cars were more appealing to people who read car magazines, but I doubt it's keeping them awake at night.
Snake, while the sales of those models may be good, sales overall are stagnant because their traditional offerings, C and E, have suffered significantly in the face of stiff competition and quality woes. If a so-called 'model offensive' only maintaines sales rather than moving them forward, then somthing is wrong.The last thing they should be doing is laughing. The E and C, along with the s-class, are their core product offerings.

I wouldn't say its a small sample, but it certainly isn't a representative sample.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 05:41 PM

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lOl! What more could you expect from a public survay with most people who are uneducated about cars anyway.
Since Audi won most of the awards i would say that they are very well informed about good cars.
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Re: AUTO TROPHY 2005 - the winners are? - 11-25-2005, 05:42 PM

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lOl! What more could you expect from a public survay with most
people who are uneducated about cars anyway.
why should they be more uneducated than us?
The winners were based on the readers opinions. If they read the mag they must know something about cars. Why read it if you not intrested in cars
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