Porsche Panamera thread (spy pics & info).

[Imhotep Evil]

I love the Turbo and the Turbo S is my favorite SUV.

But the V6 don't worm me.

Nevertheless, Porsche didn't open any new path here, that was the work of BMW with their X5.

If Porsche wanted to be original/unique/true to its caracter it wout have had to be more like the 959 Paris-Dakar.






Just imagine a rear-engined SUV with flat 6 engine.

Yeah baby.

All this is purely IMO.

[Imhotep Evil]

Now back on topic, I still think that the newer m5 will be king (for a while ofcourse), just like I think the new X5 will be king again.

[BMW_Dude]

Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

I still think that the newer m5 will be king (for a while ofcourse), just like I think the new X5 will be king again.

Lets hope so, if that isn't the case, BMW are just not working hard enough.

[Deutsch]

Originally Posted by Luwalira

What improvements needs to be made on the Cayenne. As I see it the car is more or less untouched at it's throwne of being the sportiest SUV out there. It is unbelievable that people actually buy an SUV for 100k+.

Driving dynamics for one, exterior design two. The X5 still has the trump card in driving pleasure in the SUV class.

[siko]

Porsche Panamera Body to be Built by VW
Porsche investing 120 million euros and creating more than 2,000 jobs

The Board of Management of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, Germany, has taken the decision to build the four-door Panamera at the Company's Leipzig Plant. To build the Panamera, which is currently under development and is scheduled to enter the market in 2009, in Leipzig, Porsche will be expanding the Plant significantly. The plans involve construction of a new Production Hall with an area of approximately 25,000 square metres or 269,000 square feet and, at the same time, the extension of the existing Assembly Hall by the addition of a Pilot and Analysis Centre as well as a Workshop for Apprentice Training. A Logistics Centre covering an overall area of 30,000 square metres or 323,000 square feet will also be built in the direct vicinity of the new Hall. Subject to approval by the authorities, construction is to start this September. The overall investment in new buildings and production facilities amounts to 120 million Euros.

In the words of Dr. Wendelin Wiedeking, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Porsche AG: "Right from the beginning in the production of the Cayenne and the Carrera GT, our Leipzig Plant has proven impressively that it is in a position to build premium cars of the highest quality. So taking this decision in favour of Leipzig is a clear sign of confidence in the skills and abilities of our workforce at the Plant, and at the same time a further contribution to the economic development of the New States of Germany in the East." In Wiedeking's words, the "Made in Germany" stamp of quality is also of particular significance to the Panamera: "Making this pledge to Germany as a centre of industry, we are enhancing the inherent value of our sports cars – and at the same time we are meeting the expectations of our customers", emphasises Porsche's President and CEO.

Again, Porsche is waiving its entitlement to subsidies: "The success of our Cayenne Sports Utility Vehicle proves that we do not have to use public money in order to build our cars. Rather, what counts in our case is to build the car economically in a well-conceived production concept and with the high standard of quality that characterises our Company", states Porsche's CEO in explaining the decision.

While the engines of the Panamera will be built in Porsche's main plant in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen, the Volkswagen Plant in Hanover will supply the painted bodies. Wiedeking: "We have decided in favour of the Hanover Plant because it is one of the most modern plants within the entire Volkswagen Group and is in a position to build the body of the car with the premium quality we require. A further advantage is that the Paintshop in Hanover allows a wider range of colours than at other VW plants." The Management and Works Council of the Hanover Plant, stated Wiedeking, agreed with Porsche that Hanover stood for top quality and maximum efficiency, and was therefore fully competitive and fit for the future. Porsche, he added, had already been able to verify these qualities in the past, with Porsche Consulting, the Company's in-house consulting specialist, having supported and consulted Hanover in the introduction of lean production processes.

In all, the degree of in-house production of the Panamera in Porsche's own plants is 15 per cent, with the painted body accounting for six per cent of the car's entire value. But since the Company cooperates largely with German suppliers, approximately 70 per cent of the car's value creation will be in Germany. Like Porsche's other models, the Panamera is therefore a genuine Porsche product "Made in Germany".

Production of Porsche's four-seater Sports Coupé also benefits the labour market, with some 600 new jobs being created at Porsche Leipzig GmbH and another 600 with suppliers in the region. Recruitment of these new employees will start in 2008. At Porsche's Plants in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen and Weissach the Panamera will not only help to secure existing jobs, but will also create approximately 400 new jobs by 2009. And at the VW Plant in Hanover the assignment by Porsche means the long-term assurance of some 500 jobs.

Furthermore, the Porsche Executive Board has reached an agreement with the Works Council of the Porsche AG Group, the Works Council of Porsche Leipzig GmbH and the IG Metall union to extend the company collective pay agreement for Porsche Leipzig GmbH for an additional five years.

Source: WCF

[Zonda]

Volado design.

[Top Secret]

I stronly doubt that's how it's going to look. It looks too fat and the rear headroom seems to be minimal at best.

[Deutsch]

Looking at the sketch presented in the original PR for the announcement of the Panamera, the doors will have a very unitized design. I don't think it will be the same as that of the CLS's doors. Therefore I'd expect a contiunous shutline all around the perimeter of both the front and rear doors.

[BMW_Dude]

Porsche’s Panamera project gains speed

Porsche issued a press release on Monday confirming the all-new four door sports coupe, Panamera, is going to be assembled in Leipzig Germany thus creating 600 new jobs. The body will be manufactured in the Volkswagen plant in Hannover, and the engines will come from Porsche’s home base in Stuttgart. Plans are to produce 20,000 units per year from 2009 onwards.

So far, only prototype mules of the so-called fourth Porsche model range have been sighted. They come disguised under the body of BMW’s M5, the company’s own Cayenne or an Audi.

Since the Panamera is an all new model segment, Porsche has adopted vehicles from other various German manufacturers including Audi and BMW as well as their very own Cayenne to carry out the first stages of prototype development. While performing high speed testing at Nürburgring last week, Porsche engineers were spotted with one of the Panamera test mules using a BMW M5 body as its host. One of our spy photographers caught the M5 prototype showing a small glimpse of the Panamera’s future performance with truly tire smoking results. The Panamera will be a front-engined four seater with rear and all-wheel-drive. Power will come from multiple V8 and V10 engines delivering between 340 and 600 HP. The car is supposed to cost 70,000 to 100,000 Euros.

The photos are showing the BMW M5 prototype mules with extended fenders and four exhaust pipes, and one computer image FROM OUR FILES giving an antist’s impression of how the new model may look like upon its release.

Source = WCF

[The Artist]

lol ***..thats crazy to use the competition as a mule.... cool though