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Old 10-08-2008, 12:06 AM   #1
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Nissan hits back at Porsche cheat claim

Hi guys;

Nissan finally did it & here it is ;

Peace talks between Porsche and Nissan over disputed lap times at the Nurburgring have failed and the Japanese company is preparing to mount a counter-attack.

Nissan is gathering evidence in Tokyo before unleashing a rebuttal of Porsche's claims that its GT-R could not have achieved a claimed 7 minute 25 second lap at the Nurburgring as a stock-standard road car.
It has deliberately avoided commenting until it has everything ready to prove its point.
But Nissan was angered by Porsche's attack on its GT-R, which came after the German company ran a back-to-back comparison with its 911 GT2 and Turbo and could not get within 25 seconds of the Japanese lap record for a production car.
There were talks late last week at the Paris Motor Show as Nissan executives tried to negotiate a back-room compromise with Porsche, but these failed with the German company standing by its claims.
This forced Nissan to mount a major case with everything from independent video footage to the disputed Dunlop tyres used by former F1 driver Toshio Suzuki during his 7:25 run.



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Old 10-08-2008, 12:30 AM   #2
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Re: (((=== Nissan hits back @ Porsche cheat claim ===)))

There were talks late last week at the Paris Motor Show as Nissan executives tried to negotiate a back-room compromise with Porsche, but these failed with the German company standing by its claims.


Does anyone else take this as anything other then Nissan lying?
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:21 AM   #3
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Re: (((=== Nissan hits back @ Porsche cheat claim ===)))

The easiest way for Nissan is to get Toshio Suzuki to drive the GTR around the Ring, with a Porsche engineer sitting along side.
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Re: Nissan hits back at Porsche cheat claim

Even if they do that, whats to say it wasn't modified.
If the time is legit then use the one Porsche has.
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This forced Nissan to mount a major case with everything from independent video footage to the disputed Dunlop tyres used by former F1 driver Toshio Suzuki during his 7:25 run.
Video footage doesn't mean squat. A replication of the unrealstic lap is the only way to prove themselves. Until they do just that Porsche are the winners in this war. It seem like Nissan are trying to avoid walking the talk. There insecurity is clearly showing. What a bunch of phonies.
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Re: Nissan hits back at Porsche cheat claim

The only way to clear this mess is to have an independent source like Sport Auto drive a car that is actually brought straight from a dealer instead of a Nissan supplied car.
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The only way to clear this mess is to have an independent source like Sport Auto drive a car that is actually brought straight from a dealer instead of a Nissan supplied car.
Yeah, I've been wondering about that too. Where is the GT-R super test???
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Re: Nissan hits back at Porsche cheat claim

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Even if they do that, whats to say it wasn't modified.
If the time is legit then use the one Porsche has.

Yes, I agree with Gullwing. Just use the Porsche's GT-R for the test.

Whatever happens, the GT-R has managed to beat the 911 turbo and GT3 in all independent tests. So the GT-R's performance supremacy is confirmed.

I can't wait for the GT-R V Spec
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Re: Nissan hits back at Porsche cheat claim

I think Sportauto only tests car being sold in Germany and since GTR isnt coming to Sweden until 2009/2010 we might have a long wait ahead of us
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I think Sportauto only tests car being sold in Germany and since GTR isnt coming to Sweden until 2009/2010 we might have a long wait ahead of us
Oh yeah that's true. It hasn't officially been launched here in Europe yet, been told by Nissan that it's reaching UK dealers next year. Then I guess Nissan are the only ones who can put things right.

Nissan will face legal consequences if the laptimes turns out to be a lie, not to mention a severely damaged reputation and image. They've certainly stepped out into deep water this time.

I don't get why they would approach Porsche and try to negotiate. What is there to nogotiate if the laptime is for real? The rotten fish has has officially began to spread its stench. This could turn out to be one of the biggest scandals in the history of automotive.
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