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True, but then how come Nissan haven't denied the lap time saying that the time was achieved after having done thousand laps around the circuit.

Sorry to step on people's toes like this, but then doesn't it mean that people can sue the C63 for not being as engaging around a track as an M3? Because that's what one of the lead engineers/marketing team mentioned...

There is something that keeps telling me that Nissan may prove us wrong after all. I do not have any facts, evidence, no rational explanation as to why I think the GT-R might deliver on the claimed timing- just a hunch, and I honestly feel like an idiot sharing my thoughts with you guys.

If it were Toyota- I would probably agree with Porsche, but there is something about Nissan and their engineers that make me want to believe their story.

Just a hunch guys, like I said no facts to support anything.

Let us enjoy this episode.

Luw'.... you REALLY need to get off your high-horse on this topic buddy.

You're taking it so seriously and making this issue more dramatic than a Champion's League final going into penalty shoot-outs.. if it bothers you so much, why don't you and a bunch of other biased Porsche fans launch a class action against Nissan.

I've said it a million times on here... some people and their attitudes towards Japanese and American manufacturers are so immature, I don't know whether to laugh in amusement, or shake my head in disappointment.

But since you wanna be all cynical, what proof is there that Porsche's test with the GT-R were legit, or that the vehicle they used was a standard car without factory tweaks? As warot said, we don't know the fully story or all the facts...so give it a rest buddy.

Is you argument that Nissan should go around censoring/refuting every conversation between it's engineer's/test drivers and magazines? Cause if it is, it is a really stupid one.

Walter Rohrl, says he got "7:32" with CGT, another test only got "7:40", let us sue Porsche.

Ooh, a better one, Scott said "the new 7er will make the S class look like DOS, I don't think it does, let us sue BMW!" - see how stupid it sounds.

Umm when it broke that this car was clocked at 7:29 i was shocked as thats 2 seconds off the Offical Record time of the Zonda..it was to good to be true..
now lets see if its true

Ohh and manufacturers DO claim laptimes offically .. look at pagani
And i guess they where not lying as the Zonda broke its own record with the same driver again and by a whole lot

Ummm 8 seconds is a lot closer then 25 seconds. If Porsche had gotten numbers close to what Nissan claims, they would not have brought it up.

You missed the point, I made up those numbers. How much slower does it have to be before you can sue 25? 15? 10?

Porsche wouldn't even bother buying a GT-R and testing it on N-Ring unless they thought that it is one of the best.

No matter what the lap times are that car is a 911 beater.

PS. Jeremy Clarkson also said that while the GT-R is mindblowing , he still can't believe the 7:29 time...

Jeremy Clarkson Nissan GT-R review | Driving - Times Online

Well look at the Miata, a few years ago. Mazda clained 155hp? but that was before emission parts were installed. Mazda had to offer customer full refunds or a certain amount towards their next car.