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Old 10-29-2009, 04:46 AM   #21
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So this is the M5 with a 9000 rpm redline. Shame it wont come to production. CSL stand for Coupe Sport Light and M5 is not a coupé.
I will weld the back doors if it will allow to get the CSL badge
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:49 AM   #22
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I think it does have cf roof and they reduced the weight by 100 lbs.
I think removing the front license plate also contributes to the weight reduction
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:59 AM   #23
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I think it's the exact opposite.

BMW and M wouldn't be teasing, let alone fully showcasing the F10's powerplant. It's all about suspense and anticipation, it wouldn't make sense to let out the secret this early.

In my opinion, this vehicle is a confirmation that BMW and M have decided against using an updated V10 for the upcoming M5. This engine was probably one of the prototypes that was developed, but now (my guess and my opinion) that BMW have opted for the V8TT, they just released this M5 'CSL' simply because it coincides with the 25th Anniversary for the M5.

It might just be a last swang-song for a naturally aspirated M5...and the awesome V10 that will soon be replaced for the F10 (IMO again).

Think about it...if this M5 'CSL' was really in the works for a while, you'd think they at least unveil it at some autoshow, and give it a tad updated styling, just to do a proper and deserved 25th Anniversary M5...but the low-key media release, and even the lack of quality in info and photos shows that this wasn't planned much.. just thought of 'last minute' since they had this barnstorming updated V10 sitting in the testing facility with no future.

Your thoughts make perfect sence
BMW was developing two engine options for the F10 M5 - a TT V8 and a boosted V10. Apparently, when they finally chose the TT V8, they thought the upgraded V10 would be of good use in regaining more interest in the E60 M5 and kicking the competitions ass.
I would be surprised if this version got to a limited production, but wouldn't it be just awesome ?!
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:44 AM   #24
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So this actually is NOT an excercise in 'CSL-ing' the M5...as in, there were no attempts to actually reduce the weight of the car using extra carbon-fibre, or stripping the interior...it was merely an exercise in increasing displacement and overall horsepower ?
I think it is good to exercise the brain a bit, it could easily be clogged with KERS and trucks if not used properly.
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What, why not?
One reason is that the E60 5er is a selldown-model at this point. BMW doesn't want to preempt the all-new 5er's thunder with a short run model that will capture lots of autojourno attention.

Couple this with a very, very soft economy and the relatively small pool of purists who would spring for this car and there's really no commercial argument to produce the CSL. If they were going to do this it would have been to sustain the M5 about 12 - 18 months after its release.
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Why not put this engine in the F10 and make the real M5 (call it something else, as usual) for the enthusiasts and the image M5 for others?
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For the same litany of reasons that the E39 M5's engine didn't become a doner for any E60 powertrains.
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For the same litany of reasons that the E39 M5's engine didn't become a doner for any E60 powertrains.
Very good point, but then there was no risk of losing the spirit, not on that account. Here, you could have a new-ish engine, purpose built for a small series car, a car that will be used to hold the Bavarian flag high.

Why is that important? Well, because last impressions last about as long as first impressions. Hey dr Dunkel, what do you mean? Well, the manufacturer that keeps a "good old" drivers car on it's rooster the longest will be the one that moves into the next book of motoring with the most prominent image of sporty and driver focused cars. Today, that image, in this segment, is about to be taken by Mercedes with the E63 - at least according to many reviewers.

Can BMW afford that?
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This is a one-off BMW M5 with close to 600bhp. Built to commemorate the 25th anniversary of BMW’s iconic M5 super-saloon, it’s a stripped-out lightweight special that shows what M Division could have done if it hadn’t built the X5 M and X6 M.
Details, quickly please! I’m slobbering over this new BMW M5 already.

Let’s start with the engine. As if the 500bhp/384lb ft 5.0-litre V10 wasn’t incredible enough, BMW’s M Division has stroked it out to 5.5-litres. Add in a new carbonfibre manifold and the outputs have risen to over 580bhp and nearly 400lb ft.

And to cope with that extra power BMW has junked the sequential-manual gearbox and brought in a beefed-up version of the M3’s seven-speed dual-clutch M DCT ‘box.

Inside the gearbox is linked to a pair of paddles, while the driver and front-seat passenger sit in new carbonfibre-backed buckets. There’s also a new carbonfibre roof – that cleaves a claimed 50kg of the E60 M5’s 1855kg kerbweight – and the rear seats have been junked. There’s also been a tweak to the specification of the adaptive suspension.

Bar M Division’s triple-stripe colour scheme, and some stickers celebrating 25 years of the M5, this one-off looks little different to the standard car. The only visual clue is the offset number plate, which makes way for an new intake that feeds air to the extra oil cooler.

Expect this special E60 M5 to hit 62mph in close to four seconds, and easily top 200mph. We also hear it’ll lap the Nurburgring in under eight minutes, a comfortable 20 seconds or so quicker than the standard car.

But BMW isn’t going to produce this, so we’ll just have to wait for the new twin-turbo V8 M5.
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They should done this at the facelift. Would have been such a car.

Now I wonder if you can buy this one if you have enough money.

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