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PanterroR · 10-28-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Three letters: B M W

Yeah, Blow My Whistle!

Centurion · 10-28-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by klier

And the 6er vs Z9 is a TERRIBLE example. The 6er was never supposed to be a copy of the Z9. It was supposed to be influenced by it. Which it does superbly. The CS on the other hand is supposed to go into production with the same dimensions, even. As a copy indeed.

Source???

Just_me · 10-28-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Source???

Maybe the two of you should show us some sources

Centurion · 10-28-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Maybe the two of you should show us some sources

It's just that there's hardly any concept created which design is 99% mirrored by the production car coming out 2-3 years later. Like previously stated, the Z9 and 6-series is an excellent case. In terms of signifigance the CS and Z9 are on the same level, showcasing future design language for the brand while giving an outlook of what potential production car version will look like.

The Artist · 10-28-2008, 09:43 AM

^their source is scott..

EMpower · 10-28-2008, 09:52 AM

They may change the shape of small things like mirrors and grills but overall shape wil be pretty much same. Scott did mention that BMW does not want to disappoint people who liked the car....those special customers.

Centurion · 10-28-2008, 09:52 AM

Hopefully he'll limp in there and tell us how strong the similaraties between the 8-series and the CS are.

warot · 10-28-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Hopefully he'll limp in there and tell us how strong the similaraties between the 8-series and the CS are.

He already did a few times in the Official CS thread. And the concensus from reading around other forums was that the CS isn't going to that drastically on the road to production. Yes, the pedestrian safety and all that good stuff will have to be in there, but I don't believe it will be something like a Z9 to a 6er.

klier · 10-28-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

It's just that there's hardly any concept created which design is 99% mirrored by the production car coming out 2-3 years later. Like previously stated, the Z9 and 6-series is an excellent case. In terms of signifigance the CS and Z9 are on the same level, showcasing future design language for the brand while giving an outlook of what potential production car version will look like.

It's fine if you think that, but please don't make it sound as a fact, because it is what you think about it and is completely off and based on nothing.
At least I base my claims on a real BMW Insider.

Some of you seem to think that the designers of the Concept CS didn't think of all the regulations they have to comply with if they decided to make a production model of it?
It's all there already. What we see is what we get, minus the bling rims, door handles, mirrors and interior with regular iDrive screen. So only small things will change.

I want to hear Scott again, in this very thread

The way I see it, is that the production CS will be a facelift of the concept CS, basicly.

SKYSONY · 10-28-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EnI

The exterior definitely will. It was confirmed by Herr Draeger (BMW Chief of Development) in the latest AMS interview.

Although some details will be changed to make them production-ready: bigger side mirrors, front bumper with central air intake, different rear bumper with red reflectors, different (more practical wider boot lid opening), classical exterior door handles, non-chrome wheels, different rearlight & headlight cluster graphics, side chromed gill will have different graphics.

Interior will be also much more "productionized" - although the CS design cues will be used.

The most delicate thing here are the door handles. I'm not sure where the handle on rear door will be positioned - since the shoulder character crease bows down. Perhaps the crease will be in one piece, or the door handle will be positioned elsewhere (perhaps even hidden in the Hofmeisterknick).

PS: The base price for CS won't be much above price level of fully loaded F02 LWB 7er with same motorization (V8 & V12 only, hybrid possible, no diesel in the first phase).
Mind that in Germany base E65 760Li costs 127k Euros (tax included), the special editions cost up to 136k Euros ... and you can opt optional equipment for several thousands Euros.

So, expect base eg. 860i (CS 60i) to be priced at about at least 160k Euros. Somewhere in CL range.

Any said this in the F01 pics post.

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