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Old 09-30-2008, 10:13 AM   #1
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Direction of "M" Division

Found this at MotorAuthority.A few of my "M" pic's in the article. Not real sure where to post this. Thanks! PalBay http://www.motorauthority.com/bmws-m...erm-plans.html
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:07 AM   #2
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Re: Direction of "M" Division

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Likewise, no 7-series M-model is in the works because it would run somewhat contrary to the M Division's philosophy of light, agile and powerful cars
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The crossover and SUV-focus for the M Division is a highly practical one, in the end
Contradiction at its absolute best
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:11 AM   #3
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Re: Direction of "M" Division

I refuse to read the article.
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Re: Direction of "M" Division

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I'm all for what makes BMW money and longterm healthy....but the 7 Series vs the X "M"'s is an "open mouth insert foot" moment.Some things are better left unsaid! Thanks! PalBay
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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Re: Direction of "M" Division

This is a reply to a poster on a M5 forum. He was wrong!


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They are making an M7 prototype got this news from dealership here in LA that is heading out of the states to test the new M5 and M7 prototype. I am not joking! Hell they are coming with an X5 and X6 M so why do you not think they will have one for the 7 series?
I am afraid your dealer is very much wrong. Or trying to elevate his position higher in the food chain when he is very much at the bottom.
Anybody outwith BMW AG do not get to drive the car until it is the final stages for launch and that includes dealers.


There are no plans for an M7 and there is no way your dealer will be driving the new F10 M5 because that is very much still at conception stage.
The car testing with the M5 is the Twin-Turbo V8 , which kind of shows how BMW benchmark their models. If the new F10 550i can drive as good as the current M5 , then you will see how BMW have to overcome an obstacle to making the new M5 more progressive than the current M5.

As of now there is no definite plan of action. At BMW we plan , develop and test all solutions so contradicting what the media say there is no concrete plans to replace the V10 with a V8 as both ideas are on the table , both turbo charged and utilising tech under "Efficient Dynamics" these prototypes are identified as current M5 sedans with additional extra cooling. That are using upgraded V8's and V10's as test beds connected to upgraded M-DKG gearboxes , and prototype manual boxes. There are ways to make the V10 more viable to todays requirements especially through Efficient Dynamics tech. And at BMW we develop and test all solutions.
There is much development happening even as I speak.

I am not going to mention of the speculation that the M5 will receive a V8 as many within BMW and indeed M Division think this would make the M5 like the competition and lose some of it's lustre.
As there is much to do before the Frankfurt 2011 launch of the F10 M5 and that includes evaluating several prototypes

A V10 would give BMW the edge over the competition just as the current M5 does today. BMW want to make the next generation of M cars more fuel efficient but still with that edge over the competition. I have no doubt Mercedes will have a V8 even turbocharged or NA? BMW will go further with turbo charging and technology such as an M developed dynamic drive technology aimed at offering a better, powerful and more efficient M5.

And this includes ground breaking developments that will make headlines.
Such as a production first KERS technology which was originally considered for the M3 CSL. But the technology is very much in infancy and not currently at BMW's expectations for a road car which is why the M3 CSL was postponed.
When the technology is at it's optimum level then BMW will show off their development in a Concept car.

People tend to not realise that BMW are not Audi , nor Mercedes-Benz therefore there is no need to illustrate BMW's product line as the complete double of our competition. Regarding our SAV's we know what we are doing and we know what emerging markets such cars will be successful in.
We have to accept that markets that are big for us today will not be tomorrow.

BMW might be getting applaudits and awards and upsetting traditionalists because we " Being Nice to the trees" But the new M5 will become a car that pushes the boundaries further in What Efficient Dynamics can do in a performance car.
There will be performance , agility and the best car in the upper performance sector and greater efficiency. ( A complaint regarding the current car)
when this car arrives the competition wont even know what hit them.

BMW want the next 5er to begin the countdown in dynamics,design,performance and efficiency and whet the appetite for the next M5. The BMW M5 will remain BMW's top line performance sedan , While for now the 7er will be BMW's flagship luxury sedan.
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I refuse to read the article.
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Re: Direction of "M" Division

Centurion will be disappointed...he thinks it's a great feat to be better than the E60 M5 (Panamera), but his beloved car will have a very hard time with the F10 550i with TT V8....the next M5 will again blow everything out of the water in it's segment. Porsche cannot beat BMW's experience.

E60 M5 = F10 550i
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Lol BMW sure knows how to change at the drop of a dime..
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Centurion will be disappointed...he thinks it's a great feat to be better than the E60 M5 (Panamera), but his beloved car will have a very hard time with the F10 550i with TT V8....the next M5 will again blow everything out of the water in it's segment. Porsche cannot beat BMW's experience.

E60 M5 = F10 550i
Then don't forget to send me an F10 M5 post card in 2011. I'll send you a Panamera Turbo/GT poster to hang on the wall next to your bed.
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