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This is a discussion on 4th "X" Model Confirmed for SC BMW Plant within the New BMW Models / Vehicles forums, part of the BMW category; This just showed up in my home email.Its from the folks at Bimmer/File.Very,very relevant given my earlier rant. Thanks! PalBay ...

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Old 10-09-2008, 06:20 PM   #21
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Re: 4th "X" Model Confirmed for SC BMW Plant

This just showed up in my home email.Its from the folks at Bimmer/File.Very,very relevant given my earlier rant. Thanks! PalBay
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BMW Re-thinking Sales Plan

Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:39 PM CDT

As you all know by now BMW made the decision a few months ago to change its strategy. They opted to use the “pull” mentality in much the way MINI operates and has been successful, a car is sought by a purchaser rather than pushed by the dealer. This is to keep supply and demand in check and not allow for a huge inventory or surplus of cars.

Indications from inside Woodcliff Lakes is that there is another change coming. All indications are that the pull plan is going out the window because the economic downturn has gone global and is not just a US issue. BMW had cut US allocations to send them elsewhere, the problem is that elsewhere is getting hit harder with this downturn than the US. The economy in Russia has lost about half of its value in the past few months, a key emerging market for BMW that is no longer going to have the anticipated demand. That is not to mention the issues in Europe and the remainder of Asia.

As we reported yesterday, BMW will be cutting overall production at the Leipzig plant. This was not part of the original plan of just moving allocations, by eliminating cars this signifies something far worse. The other major issue is that customers are not making large scale purchases, like cars, in fear of our economy worsening. This is not helped by the “pull” mentality and the fact leases are not being subsidized as much as in the past. While the industry as a whole is suffering BMW is seeing former customers looking elsewhere for a lower payment as even with the Owner Loyalty rates BMW is not even in the same ballpark payment wise as other marquees.

In a nutshell BMW has indicated that they will announce “a new aggressive sales and marketing plan by tomorrow”. Making Friday announcements is a technique BMW has been using to spur commenting on blogs and forums over the weekend to get some easy free marketing; mainstream media will cover it as well but over the weekend word of mouth picks up a bit.

We suspect that leases may become a bit more reasonable but more so that financing will become even better for longer periods of time. This would make buying the car via financing have similar payments as a lease. There may be new “pull ahead” programs to get existing lease customers into newer cars sooner with special money factors. While these ideas are pure speculation, something is coming tomorrow and it should move cars.

From our conversations with salespeople in the industry this is welcomed news, as they are getting minimal traffic these days and financially hurting badly.

We should have more details by tomorrow afternoon so stay tuned.
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I still have faith things will be ok in SC.The X5 was up 1% or so last month.Not bad given the not to hot economy.I just hope BMW can skillfully manage the supply/demand equation in this crazy economy.No one wants the "build them and they will buy" deal w/ the Detroit Big 2.5 or whatever they are now.But squeeze to hard on the supply side and you piss people off because they can't get the car they want for a price they think is fair.As I've stated before.....and I'm a huge,huge BMW fan...so this is not a shot at BMW, but there is limit to what people will pay for a BMW.BMW is a volume,key word volume, luxury auto manufacturer.Not a semi custom/custom producer like Ferrari,Rolls Royce,Lambo,etc.BMW just needs to be careful in switching over to this pull vs push marketing they are talking about.You can limit supply and then bump up price until somebody screams uncle.I guess the magic in this is knowing where uncle screams.No matter your financial means right now ( just pick up any newspaper and read about how the "truly wealthy"-whatever that means.... are now really cutting back on luxury purchases) everyone is being very careful on prying open their wallet given the current economic storm we are experiencing right now. You would think a fair amount of BMW customers would fall into that demographic.Enough of my speech on how BMW should run their business. I'll be first in line for the X4....love that coupe look!!!! Thanks PalBay
Yes I'm sure things will be fine. There are ways to manage this place through bad times. However, I'm just speaking about what your contact might have been saying. Those 4 I listed are probably what I was trying to say.

Whether those other X4 or X2 or whatever, I am not the one to ask
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Yes I'm sure things will be fine. There are ways to manage this place through bad times. However, I'm just speaking about what your contact might have been saying. Those 4 I listed are probably what I was trying to say.

Whether those other X4 or X2 or whatever, I am not the one to ask
My contacts say 18 months after the new 2nd Gen X3 is out the door....the X4 would be next.I had someone that's usually not in the loop about future production plans...mention that the plant was getting a 4th X model.I would say however that all future models that have not had the production greenlight given as of today...all bets would be off if the Global Economy continues to meltdown.I sure hope the economy hits bottom here real soon.Thanks! PalBay
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Piece from Left Lane News on the X4.Dead wrong on the PAS is the X4.Thanks! PalBay http://www.leftlanenews/bmw-planning-x4-sav.html
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