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Centurion · 02-19-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

Great news. An all new A8 for April of 2009, making it a 2010 model here in the U.S? That means for 2010 the S will be facelifted and the 7 and A8 will be all new. Going to be a dogfight.

EnI, I think they mean that the next A6 will be that much lighter than competitive cars right now because they have no idea what the next 5-Series will weigh.

M

April 2010 is when customers are holding the keys in their hands, which means that it should be presented 1-3 months prior to that. Throw in the Panamera, Arnage and Friska karma*Yeah right* and you've got yourself a good year.

BigBoss · 02-19-2008, 05:43 AM

BMW M5 (limo) = 507 HP / 1855 kg -> 3,65 kg / 1 HP
Audi S6 (limo) = 435 HP / 1910 kg -> 4,39 kg / 1 HP

BMW M5 (touring) = 507 HP / 1955 kg -> 3,85 kg / 1 HP
Audi S6 (avant) = 435 HP / 1970 kg -> 4,52 kg / 1 HP
Audi RS6 (avant) = 580 HP / 2025 kg -> 3,49 kg / 1 HP

Here are the weights of the current models. Take into the consideration that RS6 (and S6) are quattro powered which adds sth. to the final weight.

Sunny · 02-19-2008, 05:47 AM

Except those BMW weights are with the 68kg driver and 7kg luggage and 90% fuel and Audi weights are with out.

Centurion · 02-19-2008, 05:48 AM

Quattro accounts for a little over 50kg.

PanterroR · 02-19-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

Quattro accounts for a little over 50kg.

A6 3.2 FSI FWD - Unloaded curb weight 1540 kg (3395 lbs)

A6 3.2 FSI Quattro - Unloaded curb weight 1680 kg (3703 lbs)

Sunny · 02-19-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tycoon

A6 3.2 FSI FWD - Unloaded curb weight 1540 kg (3395 lbs)

A6 3.2 FSI Quattro - Unloaded curb weight 1680 kg (3703 lbs)

Damn, 140kg. Here is the comparison for 3er:

Unladen weight EU1,610
Unladen weight EU, xDrive1,720
(this again is with Driver and luggage and 90% fuel).

110Kg for Xdrive, not as bad but still a lot.

PanterroR · 02-19-2008, 06:02 AM

It's not always the same, for example, An A6 2.4 Avant (FWD) weighs 1535kg and the same car with Quattro weighs 1640kg...

In any case, it's always more than 100 kilos...

EnI · 02-19-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

EnI, I think they mean that the next A6 will be that much lighter than competitive cars right now because they have no idea what the next 5-Series will weigh.

M

100kg lighter than E60 which already has an all alu chassis, alu suspension + all alu front part of body frame!!!???

I do not believe that story. It's more possible new Audi will be 100kg lighter than current A6.

Except this is spin - comparing DIN to EU weight figures (75kg of difference).

Anyway ... what's the point comparing new Audi A6 with E60 & W211 - since both W212 & F10 will be out before new A6.

Centurion · 02-19-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tycoon

A6 3.2 FSI FWD - Unloaded curb weight 1540 kg (3395 lbs)

A6 3.2 FSI Quattro - Unloaded curb weight 1680 kg (3703 lbs)

I guess I made a little misjudgment

. Here are the figures for Porsche 911:

997 C4: 1,495(EU) kg

997 C4S: 1,550(EU) kg

Difference 55kg

Merc1 · 02-19-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by EnI

100kg lighter than E60 which already has an all alu chassis, alu suspension + all alu front part of body frame!!!???

I do not believe that story. It's more possible new Audi will be 100kg lighter than current A6.

Except this is spin - comparing DIN to EU weight figures (75kg of difference).

Anyway ... what's the point comparing new Audi A6 with E60 & W211 - since both W212 & F10 will be out before new A6.

You never know what they have planned, but again this is all boasting so it really doesn't mean a thing until the car turns up in the showroom proving such a claim.

Then again that comparo of different weight methods could be it too.

M

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