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Old 02-05-2009, 03:46 AM   #1
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Future of AMG engines

There is an interesting article on JESMB (JESMB (News)) about AMG future engines. Now my german isn't that good so that I could translate it all the way so I put the text through a web translator and maybe something won't match.

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“Starting from 2010 AMG equips its vehicles with gasoline direct injection and with asynchronous operation function. By a steady increase of the efficiency AMG will reach a consumption reduction starting from 2012 by 30 per cent in relation to the today's conditions. “

This today's AMG message confirms the rumors in the circulation is already longer. Until 2012 become AMG the M156 E63, which first and only complete self-development, by a new V8 gasoline direct injection engine to replace. The beginning the new CLS (C218) will make for end of 2010 (supposed sales designation CLS 55 AMG BiTurbo). The new V8 gasoline direct injection is based again, like the old V8 compressor of AMG engines, on Mercedes development names M278. The M156 E of 63, 6.3 litres of V8 becomes then only in the new SLC (W197) as well as probably begun in the McLaren P11. The new Mercedes engines M276 (V6) and M278 (V8) are complex advancements of the past V6 (M272) and the past V8 (M273) engines. The beginning the M278-V8 could make for 2009 in S-class facelift. Surface covering the new M276 and M278 are used then 2010 for example in the new CLS (C218). The new engines essentially take over the engine mount from the current. Received beside it a completely new cylinder head with cgi direct injection technology and additionally with two turbochargers are loaded. The details to the M276 engines are not more near well-known yet. The new M278 V8 becomes inclusive the AMG derivative in four Vairanten offered:

Motorblock - basis: M273 E46
New engine: M278 DE46
Power: ?
Remark: V8 with 4,6 litres & CGI technology

Motorblock - basis: M273 E46
New engine: M278 DE46 LA
Power: ?
Remark: V8 bi-turbo with 4,6 litres & CGI technology

Motorblock - basis: M273 E46
New engine: M278 DE46 LA
Power: 476 PS
Remark: V8 with 4,6 litres & CGI technology replacing the 500

Motorblock - basis: M273 E46
New engine: M278 DE55 LA
Power: over 550 PS
Remark: V8 with 4,6 litres & CGI technology new 55 AMG bi-turbo replacing the 63 AMG.


Source: JESMB
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:20 AM   #2
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Re: Future of AMG engines

SO no V12?????
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:34 AM   #3
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Re: Future of AMG engines

No I think that there is another thread that says that AMG is going to phaze out V12's.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:12 AM   #4
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Motorblock - basis: M273 E46
New engine: M278 DE46 LA
Power: 476 PS
Remark: V8 with 4,6 litres & CGI technology replacing the 500

Source: JESMB

????

I guess something is missing here.

4.6L V8 with 476HP? No way. Unless it's turbocharged.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:30 AM   #5
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????

I guess something is missing here.

4.6L V8 with 476HP? No way. Unless it's turbocharged.
The original source, JESMB states it's a bi-turbo with 435 PS.


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Re: Future of AMG engines

I wonder what is going to be the hp numbers of the next 55 AMGs. 580?.
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Re: Future of AMG engines

What about the top of the line V12s, what will they be replaced with. The new SL is just two yeas away with mules due to roll out on roads in very very soon.
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What about the top of the line V12s, what will they be replaced with. The new SL is just two yeas away with mules due to roll out on roads in very very soon.
All the rumours claim that we will see a 700 hp V8 Bi-Turbo powering the top range AMG engine. It will be a Flybrid (hybrid with KERS) with a new super-efficient AMG transmition with 8 speed.
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All the rumours claim that we will see a 700 hp V8 Bi-Turbo powering the top range AMG engine. It will be a Flybrid (hybrid with KERS) with a new super-efficient AMG transmition with 8 speed.
That sounds too good to be true.
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The original source, JESMB states it's a bi-turbo with 435 PS.


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He he sry I wasn't paying attention. I don't know where did I came up with that number
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