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NarutoRamen · 01-24-2008, 10:42 PM

Unfortunately, they are right. Now the days of high HP are over, at least in the US. But the good thing is that the companies will have to invest money in driving dynamics much more than "just put a big ass engine in it" mentality. In this case, I believe BMW, Porsche and Honda has a head start.

Centurion · 01-25-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HighestOfHigh

Maybe if they try to beat Bugatti (which rumours have been going around) then that might be a concern.

Mercedes can't and won't beat the Veyron the in the coming 5 years.

Mr. Mercedes · 01-25-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

Mercedes can't and won't beat the Veyron the in the coming 5 years.

They COULD but Won't. Lot's of companies COULD but won't.

chonkoa · 01-25-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

This suck but I had to delete some posts since it wasnt relevant to this topic " AMG declares the horsepower war ‘over’".

Wrong section and offtopic.

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Ok, guys unless you missed it this isnt internal combustion section. The thread is about Mercedes leaving horsepower war. Not another BMW vs MB thread

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Originally Posted by Tycoon

CC, let's not turn this thread into mess, please.

That vs. thing must finish right now or i'm closing this thread.

OK?

Thank you!

Gentlemen,

I hate to say this but the title of the thread implicitly insinuates the AMG vs M vs RS HP debate.
War involves conflict between two or more parties; so technically it will draw the other two big Germans(Audi and BMW) into the debate.
So if AMG declares the "war" over, people will naturally discuss about the other combatants(M division and RS division) and their response.

klier · 01-25-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Germaniac

Key phrase.... ie when our competitors begin to match or better our figures we will again raise the bar.

I lol'd

...'begin to match our figures...'

What do they have at Benz that is so special then? That freaking ancient bi-turbo V12? Like it's hard for BMW or Audi to do the same! LOL!

PanterroR · 01-25-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chonkoa

Gentlemen,

I hate to say this but the title of the thread implicitly insinuates the AMG vs M vs RS HP debate.
War involves conflict between two or more parties; so technically it will draw the other two big Germans(Audi and BMW) into the debate.
So if AMG declares the "war" over, people will naturally discuss about the other combatants(M division and RS division) and their response.

AMG have much more competitors than M & RS only, that's why we don't want this to be vs of the German trio.

Just_me · 01-25-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chonkoa

Gentlemen,

I hate to say this but the title of the thread implicitly insinuates the AMG vs M vs RS HP debate.
War involves conflict between two or more parties; so technically it will draw the other two big Germans(Audi and BMW) into the debate.
So if AMG declares the "war" over, people will naturally discuss about the other combatants(M division and RS division) and their response.

If I posted this in internal combustion it would be alright.
Although I can move this thread to internal combustion if people need to get something off their chest in the HP war debate.

but do we really need another BMW vs MB debate becuse be honest that is what this thread would only be about?

klier · 01-25-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

Mercedes can't and won't beat the Veyron the in the coming 5 years.

Are you kidding me??? Why on EARTH do you think they couldn't????
5 years is a freaking long time to develop a car. Mecedes can have a 1500 hp supercar in 5 years if they want.
Veyron is not something holy you know. It's made by VW engineers and a sh!tload of money.

Centurion · 01-25-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

They COULD but Won't. Lot's of companies COULD but won't.

Trust me, very few manufacturer can and even have the balls to develop a monster faster than the Veyron. The first challange is off course the engine itself then you need a car capable of handling all that power and getting it to the ground(that includes state of the art tires, transmission and aerodynamics) and lastly the manufacturer would have to deal with cooling and making sure that the car is as reliable as a Toyota Corolla. It's a very big challenge and we all know how much time it took VAG to finally get the Veyron into the dealerships. It's not a matter "can" but rather a matter of "will".

klier · 01-25-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tycoon

AMG have much more competitors than M & RS only, that's why we don't want this to be vs of the German trio.

Come on now. That is the only thing I talk about on this forum.
Or am I supposed to discuss and compare the power of AMG with a Nissan and Caddy in this thread?