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Old 12-09-2006, 07:54 PM   #1
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Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

The LS460 SE-L walked away with a 3/5 score, which is a little strange in my opinion, especially as the article really doesn't say anything that bad about the vehicle, but seeing as AutoExpress is connected to EVO, I think they were probably looking for a sportier drive

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"The all-new model is the most advanced and luxurious example yet - and has the class-leading Mercedes S-Class firmly in its sights. We tried the range-topper on British roads to see if it hits the target.





From the outside, there's no mistaking the manufacturer's familiar look. However, the bold chrome grille and swept-back headlamps that sit so well on the firm's smaller models are less suited to the massive LS.





Smart details, such as the integrated exhaust pipes which form part of the rear bumper and the highly polished window trims, shout quality, but the overall effect is imposing rather than stylish. Inside, the cabin has every conceivable luxury - and a vast array of gadgets. These include a special diffuser above the rear passengers to recirculate the air and a camera that monitors the driver and warns of any obstacles ahead if your eyes stray from the road or you start nodding off.






Other groundbreaking safety features include a Honda-style Lane-Keep Assist set-up that prevents the car from drifting out of line on the motorway and emergency steering assistance, which sharpens the wheel's response to help the driver avoid a collision. There are also clever pre-crash systems designed to reduce the impact of both front and rear collisions.

The big LS can even park itself, thanks to a clever self-steering set-up which measures the size of a space before twirling the wheel - all you have to do is operate the pedals! Rear passengers, meanwhile, enjoy plenty of legroom and even get their own set of controls for the impressive 19-speaker stereo system. Electric reclining seats also boost comfort.

The Lexus has an all-new 375bhp 4.6 V8 engine and an eight-ratio auto - a world first. Engineers claim the new transmission optimises performance and fuel consumption, with combined economy of 25.4mpg and a claimed 0-62mph time of 5.7 seconds.

"When it comes to luxury cars, heritage and image are everything - but try telling that to Lexus. The firm's flagship LS model only arrived in the UK in 1989, yet it has been snapping at the heels of the established German brands ever since.

Great refinement is another welcome by-product, and at motorway speeds wind noise is the only sound to disturb the peace, while the automatic air-suspension is in its element soaking up any bumps. However, it's less accomplished in town, struggling to cope with smaller potholes and imperfections.

Negatives include the grabby electro-hydraulic brakes and the lifeless steering. And then there's the price, because the flagship SE-L costs a whopping £71,000. Cheaper rivals can't match the LS's kit count, but that's still a daunting figure. Entry-level models start from £57,000, while the SE is £65,000. Importantly, the new LS is an evolution of the outgoing car, so it won't alienate loyal owners - the firm has already taken 200 deposits. Sales projections are modest, though, with around 525 conventional cars and a further 250 LS600h petrol-electric hybrids expected to find homes next year. That at least guarantees customers some exclusivity."

AT A Glance

The LS460 will be joined by the much anticipated LS600h hybrid next autumn. Unlike the standard petrol car, it will also be available in long-wheelbase guise, with prices from around £77,000.

First Opinion:

This new flagship is a technological marvel with an astonishing array of advanced and useful features. They join the traditional LS virtues of refinement and build quality – but just look at the hefty price! A bland interior and exterior – plus no diesel option and fears over residuals – mean that until the advanced hybrid arrives, the LS will trail behind rivals.

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Engine: 4.6-litre V8, 375bhp/380PS
0-60mph: 5.7 seconds
Econ/CO2: 25.4mpg261g/km
Price: £71,000
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

i hate this car.. the exterior and interior are so ugly..
why couldnt lexus make a nice looking one..like the IS..
even 3 stars are to much for this car imo
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

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i hate this car.. the exterior and interior are so ugly..
why couldnt lexus make a nice looking one..like the IS..
even 3 stars are to much for this car imo
C'mon Artist... It can be ugly to you but to me, I like both the exterior and interior.

3/5 is somewhat expected, I still stand by my opinion that it's an excellent chauffeur's car. It doesn't drive well - bah, I'll be at the back, watching my favourite DVDs and making important phone calls - I'll be more concerned about cabin noise and comfort, which the LS excels in.
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

well i did not want anyone to share my views
im sure some ppl love it to death ..
but for me..no thnx
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

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I still stand by my opinion that it's an excellent chauffeur's car. It doesn't drive well - bah, I'll be at the back, watching my favourite DVDs and making important phone calls - I'll be more concerned about cabin noise and comfort, which the LS excels in.
Agreed James

The LS460 does do it's job as a chaffeur's vehicle well, but i'd still want it as a personal vehicle though, it's not a "sports saloon" but hey, Nevadajack likes driving his S550 everyday, as a personal vehicle.
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Agreed James

The LS460 does do it's job as a chaffeur's vehicle well, but i'd still want it as a personal vehicle though, it's not a "sports saloon" but hey, Nevadajack likes driving his S550 everyday, as a personal vehicle.
I'll think you'll get a short-wheelbase, then? I'm pretty sure you'll upgrade the brakes, too...

The LWB will most certainly leave you wanting to be at the back.

NJ's S550's an enigma - LWB but a driver's car. From the pictures he posted, I don't think his backseats come with an adjustable option as well... I guess some people just like the silhouette of a LWB car better.
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I'll think you'll get a short-wheelbase, then?
Short-wheelbase for me and give me the standard options, I don't need anymore

I get the feeling you're saying the LS460 is a little more chaffeur focused than an S-Class which may be true (less driver involvement and more features) but i'm still happy to have one for everyday applications.

It may perhaps be more luxury than I need but hey, you can be sure people will be using them as personal vehicles

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I'm pretty sure you'll upgrade the brakes, too...
Nope, no need too, i'm more than sure they can cope with everyday use and especially how i'd drive it
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

I don't think the hybrid LS will make the car more competitive in Europe (as the article claims towards the end).

The hybrid LS will be practical in the city, but take it outside the urban environment and it'll be drinker. A diesel engine is a must for a car of this size, class and weight - especially in Europe. That's really all I can say.

Good-looking car though.
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Re: Auto Express - Lexus LS460 SE-L Review

It's funny to think people wouldn't like the new LS because
of driving dynamics, people who buy car's in this class
aren't looking to burn up the track! Car's like the A8L, S550 and LS460 are luxury cruisers, I highly doubt people considering the new LS are going to change their mine
because the S550 & A8L handle alittle better! These people
want 1st class comfort and security and Lexus did a great job in both those area's. Audi and Mercedes both offer sports luxury saloons for the person who's into that.
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