yeah, but none can touch the brightness of a vaio screen, believe me I've searched for long enough

i hate ipods lol! my brother has one....i just dont get why so many people have them....how does it win all these design awards?....cuz apple payed people to use them in music videos? i mean once the battery is dead you have to buy a new one..unlike its competitors, it is larger than its competitors, it has less battery life than its competitors...its heavier, it stores less songs for the equivalent hard drive space........just dont get it.......

Rik I think you need to look harder becasue my screeen is REALLY bright.
iPods Larger than the competitors? No they aren't
Heavier than the competitors? No they aren't
Stores less songs for the equivalent hard drive space? No they don't

ye i just got a 14" hp after i returned my 13.3" viao and its far better i think...it was less expensive...faster and has a 7.5 hour battery life...and its screen is fairly bright...its called brightview or something...plus i hate ipods...i just got a 20gig photo in the summer andthe released video ones that are nicer and thinner...but i think sony has the best mp3's

Are you sure about that?
Ipods have less battery life than competitors? yes they do
Ipods are more expensive than competitors? yes they are
Ipods are way too common? yes they are

I have an Archos Gmini400 right now and i'm pretty happy with it. It's just nice to be able to watch videos as well. but if I'm in the market for an Mp3 player that only does MP3, forget the Ipod. This is the way to go:


The Ipod is the most overated piece of electronic from this century

Yes the sony player is good if you are just after something that just plays mp3 but if you pay a couple of more buck you get the ipod G5 which has a large colour screen and also plays videos. In that sense apple is light years ahead of Sony. On top of that the bundled Sony music stage(or what ever it's called) sucks big time. Besides that the long battery time only concerns songs in Sony's own format which is quite pointless.
Yes ipods are common but so is the BMW 3er but that doesn't mean that it's a bad car right? I agree with you that ipods are a bit overrated but they are really good. The reason why I own an Ipod is becasue they are attractive, have leading technology and are unbeatalbe when it comes to organising and playing your music. The clickwheel makes it so easy to navigate the player .

Sony, creative and iriver are simply retarted. They never give us something new. What they do is that they wait for apple to hit us with something hot and 3 months after that they launch their replicas.

Well the problem is that Sony doesn't have a player that plays video yet, so let's keep it at MP3 for now.
Where did you hear that Music stage sucks? One of the reasons I got my Gmini is because you can drag and drop straight from Windows... that is such a plus for me.
Also, the new Sony that I just pointed out (NW-HD5) is about 3/4 the size of an Ipod. You cannot beat that. PLUS this one supports regular MP3 (and not just ATRAC3 like they used to... which was stupid) . The battery life for MP3 on the Sony is 28 hours (at 128k sound quality vs the Ipod's 14 hours). ANd if you convert your files to ATRAC, the battery life jumps up to 40 hours!

In that sense, this new Sony is IMO the best Mp3 player out there right. Would love to get one, I'm so tempted.

Okey the battery time is damn good *surrender*. Yes the player is very small but guess what the new ipod G5 is thinner and a gigantic colour screen, video playback and 30gb, that's to impressive . So you wonder where I have heard that Music stage sucks. The answer is everywhere!!!!!!!! It's all over the net, almost every magazine and user is saying that the software is terrible, in fact I haven't read anything postive about it.

Yea in those terms yes... if you want a thing that can play video as well, forget the Sony . The thing is though, as much as I like my MP3 player, I find that I don't use the video capabilities very often at all. And because it plays video and has color screen, that reduces the battery life. here it is:

If I wanted the best MP3 player out there, the Sony wins it because it is the smallest (.2 inches of thickness is not much of difference ), has the best battery life... and I forgot to mention... CNET said this had the best sound of the new Mp3 players out right now. Add good headphones to that, and there's your best MP3 player IMO. I'm so tempted to get one right now but I'm slapping myself.

Yeah the sony player is a damn good one if you just want an mp3 player without any goofy functions. Video playback is a cool feature but I'm not suprised that you don't take advantage of it. I have quite a few friends who owns the new ipod but they hardly watch films on it since the process of converting videos is a pain in the ass. Most of them where shock when they found out that they can't just drag any video into the ipod and watch it . It's not easy as people think and converting movies takes a looooooooong time, especially if you have a PC with a weak CPU.