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Old 05-20-2006, 02:31 PM   #11
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But do you really think BMW should just brush this off? I mean this is a $90,000 car. Everything should be as tight as a drum imo.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:32 PM   #12
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But do you really think BMW should just brush this off? I mean this is a $90,000 car. Everything should be as tight as a drum imo.
I still say its not a major problem and not worth fixing right now.
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Re: Jaguar XK's chief engineer discusses the challenges, benefits of building with alumin

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But do you really think BMW should just brush this off? I mean this is a $90,000 car. Everything should be as tight as a drum imo.
It IS tight as a drum. I'm not sure what the point is here other than Ford trying to discredit their competition to gain a bit of the market, that's low.
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But do you really think BMW should just brush this off? I mean this is a $90,000 car. Everything should be as tight as a drum imo.
Ha! Look man... we drove the new XK last week and I can tell you one thing - it's about as tight as stick of warm string cheese. To intimate that BMW "has some kind of problem" with their 6er is sheer nonsense. If you believe this stuff, then you're taking some cheap marketing bait, hook, line and sinker.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:12 PM   #15
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Ha! Look man... we drove the new XK last week and I can tell you one thing - it's about as tight as stick of warm string cheese. To intimate that BMW "has some kind of problem" with their 6er is sheer nonsense. If you believe this stuff, then you're taking some cheap marketing bait, hook, line and sinker.


Well, we all have our opinions but if I see more than two or three reviews about body flex issues from journalists and testers that sufficient enough to raise my eye-brows on any sort of negative issue. I`m not easily bated by problems like these but if the issue stands out, it should be addressed I believe.
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Well, we all have our opinions but if I see more than two or three reviews about body flex issues from journalists and testers that sufficient enough to raise my eye-brows on any sort of negative issue. I`m not easily bated by problems like these but if the issue stands out, it should be addressed I believe.

why? Its not risking the drivers and apparently a normal driver cant feel it. The only way to feel it I guess is if you pushing the car really hard on a track but for daily-use and on the streets noone will notice it and there the owners will spend their time .

sorry to say this but it sounds like you are trying to bash BMW by mention this, its almost like you are trying to find flaws. You are paying too much attention on this.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:34 PM   #17
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sorry to say this but it sounds like you are trying to bash BMW by mention this, its almost like you are trying to find flaws. You are paying too much attention on this.


No, not my point at all. It`s quit clear that my point is if two or more reviews
are talking note on an negative issue,(thats any negative issue) there has to be a problem there.
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No, not my point at all. It`s quit clear that my point is if two or more reviews
are talking note on an negative issue,(thats any negative issue) there has to be a problem there.

and I diasagree, not problem at all. But of course you wish its so

Im reading a lot of carboards on internet and I have never seen or read any complaints on body-flex and that being a reason not to buy one.
You saw NSL, he actually own a 6er Cabriolet and he havent felt any body-flexs. Its obvious its not a problem for the owners and its not dangerous enough to make any recalls.

Let it go GTA, at least not use it as an argument for not buying a 6er Cabriolet. That's completely absurd.
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and I diasagree, not problem at all. But of course you wish its so

Let it go GTA, at least not use it as an argument for not buying a 6er Cabriolet. That's completely absurd.


You almost make it sound like the 6er and I are in a boxing ring, you being my coach at the end of the match telling me your ready to drop the towel.

Ok, drop the towel after this read, my last post on the matter.

http://www.palmspringslife.com/media...y-2005/Wheels/
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You almost make it sound like the 6er and I are in a boxing ring, you being my coach at the end of the match telling me your ready to drop the towel.

Ok, drop the towel after this read, my last post on the matter.

http://www.palmspringslife.com/media...y-2005/Wheels/
OMG Give it up GTA. You posting all these links are ridiculous.

It's not dangerous for the drivers or the passengers, its not a major problem and not worth doing any recalls. Buyers wont notice bodyflex when they drive their cabriolets and its a silly reason for not choosing a 6er. Those articles wont scare them away. Bimmers are still handling excellent. Yes, apparently their is a little bodyflex but its not a big deal and noone died because of it. You are making it like its a problem when its infact not.

You read too much, what matters is what the owners think and how the car is to live with and not what carjournalists write in their reviews.
GTA we know you dont like to see BMW doing so well and we know you are a huge MB fanatic but please stop the crusade against BMW. If you want to complain on BMW find anything else, something thats really is a problem for BMW. The body-flex debate is just silly. Throw the towel and move on.
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