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Old 07-08-2009, 02:52 PM   #21
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The Brits are known for being rather nationalistic in their view of the auto industry favoring domestic products over all other available alternatives from competing manufactures of other origin. This blind patriotism seems to be deeply ingrained in Brit automotive journalism and its rather unfortunate as it undermines the credibility of their writing.
The auto industry is the pinnacle of industrialisation. From manufacturing to reaching customers and even after-sales, it employ a colossal number of people. I don't think there isn't any nation that isn't blindly proud of their car manufacturers. In Sweden Volvo's pretty much get top rating/score in every test while BMW, Mercedes and Audi cars get play down for high costs and big engines.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:08 PM   #22
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The rear is soo french.

Love the front and profile though.
Hey! What's wrong with France and french car design?
Things have changed (recently)!
Le Quement is not in charge of RENAULT anymore and PEUGEOT CITROËN is churning out REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY nice looking car this days.......I mean, they do look good when compared to direct competitors......

The unpainted C pillar looks like a desperate try at making the rear end look different.
It's cheap and somehow make the car look fragile.
I cannot wait to read Clarksson's test of this car who will no doubt be yet another flamboyant ode at Jaguar revival.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:11 PM   #23
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I'm surprised so many people like it. It doesn't look British at all..

That said, it does look sort of good
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:12 PM   #24
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Hey! What's wrong with France and french car design?
Nothing.

Lets just say that i just wanted a more British looking rear like XF's one.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:16 PM   #25
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I'm surprised so many people like it. It doesn't look British at all..
Well, every british car will look better then the new Bentley…if it is british looking or not. Most beautiful XJ was the last series (X350) before the facelift though…but it's great to see that they designed sth new. The old design didn't sell well…so maybe this will!
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:22 PM   #26
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When I saw the front & profile... I thought finally there is a Jag, I might think to put my money on!

However, after looking at the rare-end, I calmed myself by whispering... stick to the Germans!
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I would like to see the rear in black.
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Wow, I like all aspects of this car...front, side, and back. I like how the rear is unadorned, simple, and austere. However, the black C-pillar does seem like an afterthought. I do hope that there's an option to make it body-colored, but even if there is an option like that, those 2 joints would ruin any chance of fluidity. I do see the similarities of the rear to the Lancia Thesis. While the overall design of the Thesis is pretty jumbled design, especially, its front, the rear I thought was elegant, and, at the time, futuristic...it just didn't mesh with the rest of the car. I give the XJ's overall exterior 8.3/10. By the way, I was hoping for at least 9.5/10, so color me a bit disappointed. Once the interior is shown, then I'll have the ranking figured out. From an exterior standpoin, I still do think that this will give the Germans a run for their money. It is quite a lithe and elegant car with it's weird little idiosyncrasy.

Also, it's not the british journos who are raving about the XFR, the americans are as well. After seeing the XFR in person, I can see what all the fuss is about. That car, and the XF in general, seem to be a bit more "special" when compared to the Germans. Even though I do love the big trimuvirate Germans, the XFR seems to be the best compromise of size, power, handling, utility, and comfort. The only issue I'd have with the XF/XFR is the touch-screen interface. The German publications are also somewhat guilty of fawning over their own countrymen's products as anybody else. It's natural to take pride in what your country works hard to build and produce. It seems that Americans (along with a good chunk of the world) are more merciless with their own auto products.

Just my observation.

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was looking forward too see this and i'm not dissapointed.

I'm glad that jag are not scared to experiment, i like some of the touches they have tried but they've not been executed as well as they could have, But overall i'm really happy. I could see this competing with the germans and giving them a run for their money. Well done JAG
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So XF got the back and XJ got the front.
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