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Old 11-27-2006, 07:38 AM   #81
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Seriosly, I fail to see it. BMw nut or not. S-class may have better ergonomics but Im talking about the layout/design and S-class is no special compared to the rest.
To begin with, the S-Class cockpit design might not appeal to everyone (me included), but it is ergonomically superior. The whole design direction of this cockpit was to ensure an ease of operation for the user.
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Re: Car and Driver: A8 vs 750i, vs S550 vs LS460 vs XJ8 Super V8

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Interior design u put 750i so far away from the the S yet everybody says they copied it.
And then u accuse J_m of biased reasoning.
Did you see my smiley next to my post? I was teasing him, not accusing him of bias.
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Oh I can't wait until the Lexus folks see this over on Edmunds!

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Post a link to the thread. I want to see their responses.

I'm not anti-Lexus, but I get a lot of fanboy BS from them on other forums so news like this just makes me happy in some way.

It's called Schadenfreude (happiness at someone elses misfortune). Leave it to the Germans to invent such words.
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Post a link to the thread. I want to see their responses.

I'm not anti-Lexus, but I get a lot of fanboy BS from them on other forums so news like this just makes me happy in some way.

It's called Schadenfreude (happiness at someone elses misfortune). Leave it to the Germans to invent such words.
Here it is, I just posted the results so there hasn't been any comments yet from the Lexolites but watch this board light up today!

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ee9e5eb/21356

The last full page of posts:

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...?displayRecent

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Re: Car and Driver: A8 vs 750i, vs S550 vs LS460 vs XJ8 Super V8

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Considering the average age of cars on Japan, not for long. It is unusual to see cars older than 15 years on the roads at all. The Japan Automotive Manufacturers Association (JAMA) reports average vehicle age to be approximately 5.8 years. Japanese cultural habit of always buying new: Typical Japanese drivers are loathe to buy a car that someone else has used, regardless of the value proposition inherent in doing so. Thus Japanese customarily purchase new cars every 5-7 years.
Good post. Yes, the Japanese don't usually keep their cars very long. Kind of sad because I read an article once how a lot of older Japanese cars, that could have been classics today, have dissapeared because they were sold and ended up in poorer countries where they were driven until they fell apart etc.

The Japanese do seem to dig foreign classic cars. A friend of mine in Hong Kong sends me a Japanese Mercedes Enthusiast magazine and there was some sort of classic car event where a ton of Japanese classic MB owners showed up with their ride. Also present were a number of classics from other brands such as BMW, Jaguar etc. I didn't really know what was going on since the magazine is in Japanese obviously, but it was definitely a classic car gathering.

BTW, I do think that the Japanese have managed to adapt their cars for other cultures, such as the West. Here in Germany, we keep our cars quite long, so we expect our purchase to last longer.
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Re: Car and Driver: A8 vs 750i, vs S550 vs LS460 vs XJ8 Super V8

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Here it is, I just posted the results so there hasn't been any comments yet from the Lexolites but watch this board light up today!

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ee9e5eb/21356

The last full page of posts:

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...?displayRecent

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Excellent. I just bookmarked it. Had a quick look at the second link. Boy, some of those fanboys are full of crap.

"...Lexus has a design identity while Mercedes is trying to find one, inside and out..."

^What planet is he from?^

Glad you knocked some sense into him.
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Excellent. I just bookmarked it. Had a quick look at the second link. Boy, some of those fanboys are full of crap.

"...Lexus has a design identity while Mercedes is trying to find one, inside and out..."

^What planet is he from?^

Glad you knocked some sense into him.
Oh yes, I've had so much fun over the years crushing most of them. One in particular even left the board because I would so easily disprove any and all of his feeble theories. You'd be surprised at how ignorant most Lexus fanatics are about other cars and their own brand too, once you get past JD Powers and Consumer Reports surveys. Most of them are so clueless it isn't even funny. They just like Toyota's cars, the total opposite of being an car enthusiast. Their interest stops at Lexus, kinda sad really when they call themselve auto "enthusiasts". Nothing could be farther from the truth. The battles there have been epic and people come and go on both sides of the fence, but I remain.....and I fear no Lexolite.

What I really don't respect about them is their hypocrital ways. They'll tout any and every magazine that puts a Lexus first and then turn around and say that the same magazine is clueless when they don't put a Lexus first. Now you watch, Car and Driver has put the previous LS430 and LS400 first in a few comparos before, but now that they've put the LS460L last the Lexicans will now say the review is bogus. There are few of them that I can't respect their opinions anymore because they're so full of wishy washy BS when it comes to picking and choosing reviews, in short they'll go with any review that puts a Lexus in a good light, no matter how clueless they said the same magazine was just a few months ago.

The list goes on and on. They once knocked Mercedes for making all their cars "look alike" now that Lexus does it the practice is no ok. They're laregely clueless and more seriously hypocrites except for one or two of them.

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:17 AM   #88
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Oh yes, I've had so much fun over the years crushing most of them. One in particular even left the board because I would so easily disprove any and all of his feeble theories. You'd be surprised at how ignorant most Lexus fanatics are about other cars and their own brand too, once you get past JD Powers and Consumer Reports surveys. Most of them are so clueless it isn't even funny. The battles there have been epic and people come and go on both sides of the fence, but I remain.....and I fear no Lexolite.

What I really don't respect about them is their hypocrital ways. They'll tout any and every magazine that puts a Lexus first and then turn around and say that the same magazine is clueless when they don't put a Lexus first. Now you watch, Car and Driver has put the previous LS430 and LS400 first in a few comparos before, but now that they've put the LS460L last the Lexicans will now say the review is bogus. There are few of them that I can't respect their opinions anymore because they're so full of wishy washy BS when it comes to picking and choosing reviews, in short they'll go with any review that puts a Lexus in a good light, no matter how clueless they said the same magazine was just a few months ago.

The list goes on and on. They once knocked Mercedes for making all their cars "look alike" now that Lexus does it the practice is no ok. They're laregely clueless and more seriously hypocrites except for one or two of them.

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I completely agree with you.

I read Autospies occassionally, so I know how these fanboys think. They do bash magazines once the Lexus looses - and they'll praise the same magazine when the Lexus wins. How retarded is that?

Keep up the good work. You have my thanks.
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I completely agree with you.

I read Autospies occassionally, so I know how these fanboys think. They do bash magazines once the Lexus looses - and they'll praise the same magazine when the Lexus wins. How retarded is that?

Keep up the good work. You have my thanks.
Thanks.

Oh I don't even both reading Autospies forurms, the post their range from the idiotic to the moronic.

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Oh I don't even both reading Autospies forurms, the post their range from the idiotic to the moronic.

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