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Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTEThis is a discussion on Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Just found this on Autobild. Translated the article for your reading pleasure. The BMW has the Lexus beat in all ... |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Just found this on Autobild. Translated the article for your reading pleasure. The BMW has the Lexus beat in all areas except fuel consumption. They didn't pick a winner since this was simply a comparison between two new technologies. As usual though, the BMW was more fun to drive and had the better handling traits as well and was more comfortable than the Lexus too. BMW Alpina D3: 200-hp, 0-100 km/h = 7.7 seconds Lexus IS220 TTE: 208-hp, 0-100 km/h = 8.9 seconds Test Alpina D3 gegen Lexus IS 220d TTE Stadtgespräch Es hat sich herumgesprochen: Diesel kann viel Spaß machen, und Lexus ist eine Alternative. Ein Vergleich zwischen IS 220d TTE und Alpina D3. (Word has gotten around that diesels are now fun to drive - and finally, Lexus has an alternative. This is a comparison between the Lexus IS220d TTE and the BMW Alpina D3.) ![]() Von Ben Arnold: Der Dreier-BMW ist ein feines Auto – auch mit Dieselmotor. Leider hat mittlerweile jeder einen. Wer nicht das gleiche Auto wie sein Nachbar, Friseur oder Kollege fahren möchte, hat im Grunde nur zwei weniger inflationär verbreitete Mittelklasse-Alternativen mit Heckantrieb: Den direkten Abkömmling Alpina D3 und den Konkurrenten aus Fernost, Lexus IS 220d. Letzterer tritt im TTE-Werkstuning-Trimm zum Test an. Beide Fahrzeuge vermeiden trotz ihres Exoten-Status jegliche Paradiesvogel-Attitüden. Beim Lexus fallen nur die großflächigen 19-Zöller ins Auge. In Verbindung mit einem Tieferlegungssatz steht der Japaner stämmig auf der Straße, erntet aber nur selten neugierige Blicke. (The BMW 3-Series is a fine car - even with a diesel engine. However, nowadays, everyone has one. We examined two tuned vehicles in this test. A BMW Alpina D3 and a Lexus IS220d with inhouse TTE tuning. On the Lexus, the only thing that catches your attention are the large 19" rims combined with the lowered body.) ![]() Der D3 geht einen guten Schritt weiter. Die typischen Akzente setzt Alpina mit absoluter Stilsicherheit: Frontspoilerlippe mit Marken-Schriftzug, zeitlose 18-Zöller, Edelstahlauspuff. Nur die Tatsache, dass der einzige für ein Alpina-Auto ernsthaft infrage kommende Farbton – das herrliche Blau metallic – satte 1900 Euro Aufpreis kostet, betrübt ein wenig. Serienmäßig hingegen: der überarbeitete Motor aus dem BMW 320d. Den konfigurieren die Allgäuer auf eine Art und Weise, die verstehen lässt, warum Alpina den Tuning-Kinderschuhen längst entwachsen ist und auf die Bezeichnung "Hersteller" so großen Wert legt. Chiptuning machen die anderen, Alpina baut den Motor neu auf – und zieht dabei alle Register: Ein eigenentwickelter Garrett-Lader, Ladeluftkühler und Magnetventil-Injektoren aus dem großen Bruder 330d sollen aus nach wie vor zwei Liter Hubraum standfeste 37 Extra-PS (200 statt 163 PS) generieren. (The Alpina BMW takes this tuning a bit further. It comes with a more noticeable body kit and 18" rims as well as a bunch of extras not found in the Lexus. The engine is a tuned version of the standard 320d. Alpina borrows the intercooler and magnetic valve injectors from the bigger brother, the 330d, and implants them into the D3. The result? 200-horsepower instead of the standard 163-horses. ) ![]() TTE begnügt sich beim Lexus IS 220d mit einem weniger komplexen Eingriff: Ein Zusatzsteuergerät bringt 31 Mehr-PS (208 statt 177 PS). Über einen Knopf im Armaturenbrett kann das Leistungsplus jederzeit deaktiviert werden. Ein Provisorium: Das PS-Paket hat aktuell Prototypen-Status. Wann die Leistungssteigerung in den Handel gelangt, steht noch in den Sternen. Vielleicht kann der Werkstuner bis dahin das Durchzugsvermögen optimieren: 23,1 Sekunden von 80 auf 120 km/h im sechsten Gang sind indiskutabel. Auch der Alpina D3 kann in Sachen Elastizität nicht glänzen: Gegen entspanntes City-Cruisen – 50 km/h im 5. Gang – wehrt sich der D3 entschieden. Davon abgesehen begeistert der Motor jedoch auch Diesel-Hasser. Wobei ihm der geschmeidige Benziner-Klang Natürlich abgeht. (The Lexus TTE on the other hand is not as complex as the BMW. Lexus simply installed a different system which boosts power from 177-hp to 208-hp at the touch of a button Interestingly, this TTE system is a prototype and not yet available on sale in Europe. Because of this, we hope that Lexus can improve the performance times of the IS220d as the midrange acceleration for one was dissapointing. The same applies for the BMW. However, in a city environment, the BMW has the Lexus beat. For example: cruise around at 50 km/h and floor it in 5th gear and the Lexus can't compete. The BMW Alpina sounds rather like a gasoline engine, than a diesel. Diesel-haters will be impressed) ![]() Was die Performance anbelangt, braucht er jedoch keinen Vergleich zu scheuen. Es beeindruckt stets von Neuem, wie sich die 200 PS in Szene setzen. Der Motor dreht willig bis in den roten Bereich, auch ab 200 km/h lodert unter der Haube noch ein Feuer wie bei kaum einem anderen Diesel. Null auf 100 km/h dauern schmale 7,7 Sekunden. Der Lexus verliert das 100-km/h-Sprintduell deutlich: Woher die 1,2 Sekunden Rückstand bei gleicher Leistung rühren, ist rätselhaft. Liegt es allein an den größeren Rädern und den 125 Kilogramm Mehrgewicht? Zur TTE-Ehrenrettung seien zwei Dinge erwähnt: Zum einen hat das Auto subjektiv empfunden ordentlich Dampf. Zum anderen hängt der modifizierte Lexus den serienmäßigen IS 220d deutlich ab. Der ist vom Werk zwar ebenfalls mit 8,9 Sekunden angegeben, benötigt aber von AUTO BILD gemessene, enttäuschende 10,2 Sekunden von null bis 100 km/h. Jeder Audi A4 2.0 TDI, BMW 320d oder Mercedes C220 CDI fährt den Lexus IS220d davon. (The performance of the BMW is awesome. Impressive, to say the least, how those 200-horsepower work. The engine is rev-happy and even at 200 km/h, the car has enough reserve power and eagerness for more speed. 0-100 km/h take place in 7.7 seconds. The Lexus is defeated in the 0-100 km/h test with a 8.9 second time despite more power and torque (but it weighs more). Saving the honor of the TTE Lexus are two things: one, it does have power, and two, the IS220d TTE is a welcome change over the sluggish IS220d. Strangely, both the regular IS220d and tuned IS220d TTE are claimed by Lexus to have a 0-100 km/h in 8.9 seconds - but we measured a dissapointing 10.2 second 0-100 km/h for the regular IS220d. Every Audi A4 2.0 TDI, BMW 320d or Mercedes C220 CDI leaves it in the dust.) ![]() Ein Jammer, dass das Performance-Defizit den Japaner derart zurückwirft: Der Lexus fährt nämlich alles andere als schlecht. Die Kombination aus Riesenrädern und Sportfedern wirkt sich auf den Komfort zwar nicht gerade vorteilhaft aus, dafür fährt der IS aber sehr manierlich um Biegungen jedweder Ausprägung. Alpina demonstriert auch in der Disziplin Dynamik, was "gut" von "annähernd perfekt" trennt: Das Auto fährt sich schlicht und ergreifend hervorragend. Die vollkommen alltagstaugliche Federung legt exakt jenes Maß an gesunder Härte an den Tag, das spaßorientierte Vernunftsmenschen wünschen. Die auch beim Unterhalt ihre Überzeugungen nicht verleugnen müssen: 7,7 Liter Diesel auf 100 Kilometer sind eine Ansage. Trotzdem spielt sich in diesem Kapitel der Lexus in den Vordergrund: Ihm genügen 6,6 Liter. Da staunen die Nachbarn und Kollegen – und der Friseur sowieso. (A shame that the performance of the Japanese car is so poor, especially since the Lexus isn't such a bad ride. The big wheels and sport suspension make the car not very comfortable, but improve the handling considerably over the stock model. However, the Alpina is simply better. It's handling and ride are better and it has the Lexus beat in comfort as well. While the BMW is the more fun car, it also requires 7.7 L / 100 km, as opposed to the Lexus 6.6 L / 100 km. Impressive.) Prices: BMW Alpina D3: 35,900 Euros Lexus IS220d: 29,600 Euros ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Amazing petrol mileage for both vehicles, will update Average petrol mileage thread Now it's clear that the Alpina is the sporty car here, it's better handling, faster and appears to be more fun. However from the two, i'd have to go with the TTE simply because i prefer the exterior styling more. Sure it's less entertaining, but more to my taste. I love the wheels they put in the IS220, but am dissapointed no body kit was added on.... Great thread, thanks for the post. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Quote:
Personally, I think the BMW looks much better. The Lexus IS to me looks so unproportional. The IS looks better in real life but it simply isn't as classy or elegant as the BMW. The Lexus does have the nicer rear though. Did you notice how overrated the Lexus IS interior is? That Autobild picture really got me thinking. I've seen the IS interior upclose, even sat in one, and I thought that it was nothing special. Nothing that the Audi A4 or even the facelifted C-Class can't match. It does have the edge on the BMW, I think, but again, I feel that the IS interior is totally overrated. ![]() See what I mean? Nothing special to me. I feel that people overrate this interior bigtime. Here's the link to the Lexus show I attended: http://www.germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=5362 (***Lexus GS450h Show near me***)
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Quote:
but in particular the new IS, GS and especially the LS. Just so everyone knows, i'm a big Mercedes fan too Love just about every model they make! | |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Quote:
Listen, if you want any reviews translated from Autobild, just tell me. Though keep in mind that I cannot translate every single one since I also have a life to live. ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Quote:
![]() A Alpina is so more exclusive than both Lexus and a normal bimmers. In this review the Lexus dont stand a chance against Alpina. Also driving dynamics and drivers joy are important factors for me so Alpina gets my vote.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE The IS is nothing special in my opinion. Even the interior is very bland and doesn't look luxurious to me. I will take the D3 please.
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Autobild however liked this IS220d TTE. They've not been impressed with the regular IS220d. Poor handling, poor brakes, cheap interior, uncomfortable. I really don't understand why the Lexus fans on Car and Driver are so mesmerized by this car. ![]() No offense to people who like the IS. ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autobild: BMW Alpina D3 vs Lexus IS 220d TTE Cause the IS 350 had more HP than the 330i. Now just compare them on the Nring or Hockenheim. Not to mention the mighty 335i. ![]() |
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