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This is a discussion on Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil Why is it that it got consumption/enviroment the same score, if it consumes less the ...

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Old 09-05-2006, 09:26 AM   #11
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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Why is it that it got consumption/enviroment the same score, if it consumes less the Benz.
Also handling same score, and if the bimmer accelerates better why not a better score ?!
This is a crapy comparo.
There is a difference between factory figures and reallife testvalues.
In the test, the BMW and the Mercedes had the same amount of fuel consumption.
Concerning the acceleration, the BMW is a bit faster but only with a few tenths which isn't really that significant to give it a higher score.

BMW
Fuel Consumption: 8,8 l/100km = tested values
Acceleration 0-100km/h: 6.9 seconds

Mercedes-Benz
Fuel Consumption: 8,8 l/100km = tested values
Acceleration 0-100km/h: 7.4 seconds

Link:http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=12141

Alot of people here are underestimating this 'old-body W203' facelifted C-class.
It isn't a bad car as some might think, just because it's a bit old and dated compared to the new BMW doesn't particulary mean that it's lightyears ahead of the Benz. Also it's not that only BMW can build good handeling cars. BMW's are sportier to drive and the Mercedes' are more comfortable but that doesn't mean that the BMW automatically earns a better driving dynamics just because of that.

There was also a test comparison from Autobild between a BMW 330i and the Mercedes C350 where the latter won the test as well.
These cars are close together and it's only a matter of personal preference, both cars are great.
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

Translated the article here: http://www.carspin.net/forums/luxury...-modell.0.html
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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There was also a test comparison from Autobild between a BMW 330i and the Mercedes C350 where the latter won the test as well.
These cars are close together and it's only a matter of personal preference, both cars are great.
like I said before, Audi and mercedes win more comparisons than BMW in Autobild. Its obvious autobild prefer those over BMW, probably cause the BMw is too sporty for them. Luckily for BMW, people dont stop buying 3er becuase Autobild says no to BMW. 3er is the three top selling car in germany last month.

Also everytime they give BMW bad score in warranties compared to Audi and BMW. Im curious what kind of waranty Audi and MB offer in germany that the BMW seem not to have?
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:51 AM   #14
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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BMW

Acceleration 0-100km/h: 6.9 seconds

Mercedes-Benz

Acceleration 0-100km/h: 7.4 seconds

Link:http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=12141
bmw / MB
0-100/0-200 km/h 6,9/30,1 s 7,4/31,7 s
60-100/80-120 km/h 3,8/4,5 s 3,9/4,9 s

330d doing fine up to 200km/h, 1.5 second faster.
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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like I said before, Audi and mercedes win more comparisons than BMW in Autobild. Its obvious autobild prefer those over BMW, probably cause the BMw is too sporty for them. Luckily for BMW, people dont stop buying 3er becuase Autobild says no to BMW. 3er is the three top selling car in germany last month.

Also everytime they give BMW bad score in warranties compared to Audi and BMW. Im curious what kind of waranty Audi and MB offer in germany that the BMW seem not to have?
BMW has won their share of comparos on Autobild. In this comparison, the C-Class is clearly more family oriented and comfortable - read my translation.

Oh yeah, Autobild said about the 330d Touring that if you're the kind of guy who is a sports sedan fanatic, then the 3-series is for you. Sounds like Just Me to me.
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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BMW has won their share of comparos on Autobild. In this comparison, the C-Class is clearly more family oriented and comfortable - read my translation.

Oh yeah, Autobild said about the 330d Touring that if you're the kind of guy who is a sports sedan fanatic, then the 3-series is for you. Sounds like Just Me to me.

sure ,but lately thats not often, only when sport matters. we post a lot of BMW vs MB vs audi comparisons from autobild and most of the times I see BMw lose. Im not making excuses but thats the way I see it. If the comparions is about sport BMw win but its not often this comparisons is about sport, like this comparison for instance.

Im still curious about warranties since BMw lose a lot of points compared to them. What warranties does MB and Audi have that BMw is missing? in this comparison MB gets 7 points more in warranties, why?
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

Seems like these cars are very closely matched, I hope BMW have a f/l due for the 3er for when the new C class comes out!
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

The C Facelift is far from a bad car..i have one.. and ive driven the new 3er..my friend has a 320 and i have a 200K.. obviously the 3er is more sharp and direct.. but the C (atleast mine with wood and such) has alot more luxurious interior and its alot easier to drive..its more smoother..
on these points both me and my friend are agreed..
but the 3er is all in all a better car..no doubt..its a newer modell so it should be..
but this common idea that the C is light years behind is very very wrong..coming from a BMW and MB owner..
so watch out BMW for the next C class..it will indeed be a challange..
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

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bmw / MB
0-100/0-200 km/h 6,9/30,1 s 7,4/31,7 s
60-100/80-120 km/h 3,8/4,5 s 3,9/4,9 s

330d doing fine up to 200km/h, 1.5 second faster.
BMW is indeed 1.5 seconds faster to 200km/h.
But how many times will you do a 0-200 km/h in reallife? And why a diesel?
Anyway the sprints from 60-100/80-120 km/h are pretty close together.
Maybe it's the subjective feeling of the speed.
And just in case you didn't notice, the BMW is the price/performance winner in the test comparison.

And by the way, I see BMW often win a test in Autobild.
Like the diesel tests of the 520D against the E220 CDI and the Audi 2.7 TDI or the 335i vs CLK350 and some other tests. As you can see it's not only when it comes to sport. Also comfort/handeling points will be also taken in consideration in the total score in all of these comparison. It's not at all that BMW loses points in these category.

I might sound a bit Pro-Mercedes sometimes but I'm not actually. Just stating some facts here and there.
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Re: Autobild: BMW 330d Touring vs. Mercedes-Benz C320 CDI T

Hmm, strange result. Most of you will know me as the mild and objectively even tempered one (heh heh, yeah right Martin...) around here and I'm loathe to single out a certain brand as being ultimately superior.

But just for once to put my opinion in for good measure... there is no way in rational thought that the C320 CDI Estate can be judged as being superior by any margin to the BMW 330d Touring. On par? Perhaps a distant possibility in my mind but never superior.

Hey, I'm allowed to have some strong opinions now and then aren't I? Thing is, I recommended the 325i Touring to my daughter's Godmother and the 330d to her husband. They bought both and are in 7th heaven... A 330d Touring (or 335d, more so) would just be perfect. I firmly believe that the 330d Touring is the better car.

... and that's not to say that it is, it's just my opinion
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