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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-14-2006, 10:32 AM

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LOL, Yannis, you need a response here or what? The E46 M3 isn't even in production anymore. There was only maybe a month or so left when the RS4 got released. The new M3 will eat the RS4 like a snack
You mean like RS6 will eat the M5.
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-14-2006, 10:36 AM

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LOL, Yannis, you need a response here or what? The E46 M3 isn't even in production anymore. There was only maybe a month or so left when the RS4 got released. The new M3 will eat the RS4 like a snack

well that's just because BMW can actually make the M3 better than the RS4 by looking at the flaws of the RS4 and how to make it faster...same with RS6 and M5.

BTW, sunnyman....I'm sure the M5 is gonna be faster than the S6...but when it comes to comfort and ride...I'm sure its better than the M5....Audi made the S6 very well.
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-14-2006, 10:40 AM

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well that's just because BMW can actually make the M3 better than the RS4 by looking at the flaws of the RS4 and how to make it faster...same with RS6 and M5.

BTW, sunnyman....I'm sure the M5 is gonna be faster than the S6...but when it comes to comfort and ride...I'm sure its better than the M5....Audi made the S6 very well.
ye eh...i'd rather have the king of cars rather then picking the safe comfortable choice...i guess its a personality thing...O and what car company started Super Saloons...BMW Audi's been chasing along time its bout time they put u a fight
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-14-2006, 11:16 AM

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BMW, Audi's been chasing along time its bout time they put u a fight


We all have our own opinions but I don`t believe this is the case. Audi has a certain clientele thay appeal to and thats pretty much set and known in the automotive kingdom. If thay were trying to appeal to the BMW masses we would see alot of BMW design philosphy in Audi. We clearly don`t see that!

In any case Audi needs to hurry-up with the RS6. I`m sure the new RS6 would shut up alot of mouths, even amoung the journalists with these comparos.
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 05:02 AM

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short verdict:

The more powerful and lighter BMW 5 easily wins that comaprison with 49/37 (out of 60) pts. The S6 loses against the M5 as the (Lamborghini) V10 si limited to just 435 bhp and the S6 weighs about 150 kgs more than the M5.

S6: 435 PS / 2003 kg = 217 PS/ton
M5: 507 PS / 1858 kg = 273 PS/ton

So the M5 beats the S6 in all aspects, it is the much sportier and better to drive, the S6 is perfect grand tourer with a lot of power and a pretty good handling due to the permanent 4WD.


S6: 172 EUR/PS
M5: 174 EUR/PS

M5 / S6
0-100km/h 4.7 / 5.9
0-200km/h 14.4 / 19.8
18 meter slalom: 66,6km/h 63,9 km/h

Hockenheim 1.16,3 min 1.18,3 min
i think the lap time speaks everything. there will still be an RS6 on top of S6, but now S6's lap is only 2 sec slower than M5. so think Quattro is a brilliant stuff, although it is heavy. btw, what do you think the lap of RS6 will be (both old and new one)? 1.13,3?
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 05:08 AM

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LOL, Yannis, you need a response here or what? The E46 M3 isn't even in production anymore. There was only maybe a month or so left when the RS4 got released. The new M3 will eat the RS4 like a snack
i don't think Audi likes to be behind of BMW... and i know quattro is something that BMW can never achieve, in terms of either safety and traction-lap time...
haha!

M5 is 20% more expensive than S6.
S6 is much more relaxed and comfortable than M5, but the lap time in Hockenham is only 2s slower!
so how will the RS6 more expensive than the M5 be?
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 05:20 AM

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i don't think Audi likes to be behind of BMW... and i know quattro is something that BMW can never achieve, in terms of either safety and traction-lap time...
haha!

M5 is 20% more expensive than S6.
S6 is much more relaxed and comfortable than M5, but the lap time in Hockenham is only 2s slower!
so how will the RS6 more expensive than the M5 be?
have you ever tried a M5 E60? (I have), 2 sec is a lot on a small track like hock.

and Quattro isnt superior over BMW X-drive anymore. Lately BMW has won comparison were they tested x-drive vs Quattro in winter. The car with X-drive had better traction and but a faster laptime than the car with quattro.

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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 05:36 AM

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and Quattro isnt superior over BMW X-drive anymore. Lately BMW has won comparison were they tested x-drive vs Quattro in winter. The car with X-drive had better traction and but a faster laptime than the car with quattro.
Sorry but only BMW fans believe that. Just because an unknown Swedish car magazine says that it doesn't mean that it's true.
One of the most well know magazines "Automobile" said that M5 was third behind E63 and S6 but i don't see you accepting that.
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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 05:39 AM

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Sorry but only BMW fans believe that. Just because an unknown Swedish car magazine says that it doesn't mean that it's true.
One of the most well know magazines "Automobile" said that M5 was third behind E63 and S6 but i don't see you accepting that.
Its audi fans that refuse to face truth. Dont blame in on us. Quattro isnt superior anymore and thats sad truth to some, no names mentioned
Sweden have winters and very snowy roads, I trust our carmags rather than the carmaker. Unknown swedish carmag, now you being rude.

BTW the two largest carmags in Sweden come to this conclusion during wintertests where different cars with different systmens were tested. Just becuase they arent wellknown to the world doesnt mean what they say are rubbish.

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Re: Sportauto: BMW M5 vs Audi S6 - 08-15-2006, 06:18 AM

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btw, what do you think the lap of RS6 will be (both old and new one)? 1.13,3?
The new RS6 to lap in 1.13,3 min is going to be impossible on a track like Hockenheim. Instead it will be close to M5 laptime, maybe slightly faster.
But 1.13,3 min around Hockenheim with a stock RS6 wont happen.

See this link, times for different cars. If the RS6 get 1.13,3min then its the same league as SLR, M3 CSL, 997 Turbo, F430.

Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 1.12.7 min
Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 1.13,0 min
Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 1.13,2 min
AC Schnitzer-BMW CLS II (E36) ------------------------- 1.13,4 min
BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 1.13,5 min
Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 1.13,5 min
Z4 V8 Topster -------------------------------------------- 1.13,7 min
Porsche 997 Turbo ---------------------------------------- 1.13,7 min
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