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True, I didn't mean to say that the M5 was uncomfortable, it is just that the M5 is clearly biased towards being the ultimate sports sedan. If it manages to be comfy, well, kudos to BMW then.

it sounded like you said there was no comfort at all and you would have pain in the butt,back and arms after only a few minutes in the M5

I have not driven the M5, so I can't comment. But I didn't intend to make it sound like the M5 was a Fred Flinstone type of car.

Thanks for posting the article. I was really looking forward to a comparison test between the M5 and E63.

It seems more and more car mags now are favouring "overall/all round" performance, including aspects like comfort and practicallity when coming to a conclusion.

Well, this just confirms again that the AMG cars can be a good balance of performance and comfort. On the twisty track, I would still take the M5 in terms of driving feel and getting that little extra speed advantage. On everyday roads, the E63 and M5 will be neck and neck in terms of performance, but the difference is the E63 is more comfortable.

Like the C55/C32 comparision, the E63 seems to be a much better handling car than the E55 because of the Direct Control upgrades.

It looks like Mbworlds.org biggest fear is getting true. E63 slower than E55?

Yup, I just posted this article on mbworld.org. All those guys care about in the E55/E63 forum is straightline acceleration. The E55 owners will LOVE this result for two reasons: the AMG won over the M car, AND it is likely that their beloved E55's are faster than the new E63.

Let's be very frank here, the E63 won and it will probably win in every comparison whether M likes it or not. Let's face it. The E63 is faster and better than the E55, so of course it is going to win. Not only that, when the M5 came out, we all knew that an upgraded E55 AMG (I may be mistaken, i am only assuming), could catch up, if not beat the M5.

I love the M5, but the naturally aspirated engines that are coming from the M division are limited in what they can do to out perform an animal that can just be forced induced. Either way, I would take the M5 over the E63, but only by a hair. The reason for this would simply be because of the SMG, and if the M5 came in 6 speed( like it does now in the US) then even more. I love spotiness and that is something that BMW has been able to accomplish.

Everyone is different, so driving the E63 may be what is right for guy A, but wrong for guy B. We all have our preferences and we all grew up driving differently. Some of us are lazy and just prefer an animal under the hood that is already tamed, others (like me ) prefer an animal under the hood that we need to tame and drive the hell out of (m5).

I think it is safe to say that many auto mags are going to pick the E63 over the M5, just because it has that little nitch.


Conclusion

The different between these two beasts is a matter of degree, not a matter of one being better than the other.

What are you talking about, the M5 was fater and had better handling.
Do we really care about the rest ?!
And it's AMS Germany.
Even the E55 won against the M5 so for the E63 to also win was perfectly natural.
AMS Sweden on the other hand...

Also W-- is with these times ?!

If those guys draw conclusions based on one test, thay are silly!!

This is an interesting test. Someone already pointed out that car journalists are now looking for the "entire performance package balance", the AMG vehicle delivers yet again with it`s second victory against it`s main compeditor, the M5..

I expected better numbers from the E63!

This is the first test where speeds are compared. I can`t wait for Road&Track to compare these two. Thay come up with excellent numbers from off the line starts. Car&Driver Burns too much rubber off the line, this is why thay have the best times. No one in the real world burns rubber off the start.

No my friend, the M5 was lighter not fatter?

I actually didn't read the article because I can't read German, but from what I took, I thought the E63 was faster. Either way, I was going on the rationale of the E63 being faster since it has more power. I was arguing that it is a matter of degree and nothing else. Preference plays an important role in picking a car. Look, I don't have to repeat what I wrote, please re-read what I wrote.