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Old 07-11-2006, 12:45 AM   #21
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

I'm really curious to know why the BMW fanatics here have a hard time with the XK beating the 650i? I mean if the BMW doesn't have the usual BMW road qualities what else does it have on the Jaguar. Well besides styling preferences? What else would make the BMW superior? Just asking.

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Old 07-11-2006, 12:52 AM   #22
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

The 6 does have the same driving and handling prowess as other BMWs. They're not going to skimp on the 6....obviously.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:56 AM   #23
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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The 6 does have the same driving and handling prowess as other BMWs. They're not going to skimp on the 6....obviously.
Well I haven't driven it, but they've been saying that it doesn't for some time now. That is why it has consistantly lost comparos with them. Kinda like the old 850i. And believe me Car and Driver LOVES BMWs so when they say something like this it is something to it, IMO.

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Old 07-11-2006, 02:07 AM   #24
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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I'm really curious to know why the BMW fanatics here have a hard time with the XK beating the 650i?
Spend some time in the XK and you'll know why. The car is fun, but when you take the price tag into consideration it's not the same league as the 6er or any other German car in its class. People will enjoy it for its idiosyncrasies, but not for its refinement, finish or anything else I can think of.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

Our admin, NSL, own a BMW 650 Cabriolet. He loves his car, its more important that the owners like their cars than what some carreviewers think. Carjournalists dont decide for you.

I think some of you take this carreview (or others) too serious. Yes, the 650i didnt do well in this review so BMWfans cant be bragging about the result but it doesnt mean 650i is a bad car. Some people love the car and some people hate the car. Live with it!!

My choice stand between 650i or SL. 997 is a sportcar, I would never buy a Porsche Convertible. Convertibles are meant for cruising and enjoying the weather. Sport and Convertible dont mix good together IMO. Thats why I never would buy a BMW M Convertible.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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Spend some time in the XK and you'll know why. The car is fun, but when you take the price tag into consideration it's not the same league as the 6er or any other German car in its class. People will enjoy it for its idiosyncrasies, but not for its refinement, finish or anything else I can think of.
That is fair enough since I have driven neither, but what I don't understand is why a BMW loving magazine would rank the 6 so low if it didn't deserve it.

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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

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I'm really curious to know why the BMW fanatics here have a hard time with the XK beating the 650i?
I'm only having hard time with this:

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Lows: Anesthetic isolation, a heavyweight, controversial styling, bland personality.
The Verdict: Super luxurious, but the victim of a BMW-ectomy.
Bland personality? Victim of BMW-ectomy? W.T.F.???

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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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That is fair enough since I have driven neither, but what I don't understand is why a BMW loving magazine would rank the 6 so low if it didn't deserve it.

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Well... journalists have all sorts motivations and biases. They're also entertainers who are paied to cough up intriguing opinions. I'm not saying that the selection of the XK over the 6er is disingenuous. I'm just saying that journos sometimes just pick a feeling and go with it.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

what an Idiotic article. Merc1, there is one problem. You seem to take them for their word. Trust me, the 6 series is waaaayyy more sportier than a XK, or an SL. the previous article was mentioned with the 645 against the SL, well everybody knows the SL was a heavy cornerer and not the most agile of roadsters. More of a cruiser. That alone says to me " this magazine is full of shit and propably run by Jürgen Schremp himself"I can accept the Carrera in front, it is a smaller more nimble car, maybe the SL if the FL did that much good. But that's it. Nothing more. Whoever says different just doesn't know his cars.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

I'm really trying to understand where BMW guys are coming from while trying to resist saying that you're just up in arms because the BMW got beat so badly.

However I think that you both are missing the point of the article, which was to find the best overall car of the group. In the luxury GT class it isn't just about handling which is what BMW's are usually about, hence it didn't win here. Neither did the Porsche which we know will easily outhandle a SL. Secondly who here has driven the facelifted SL yet? If another magazine can get a SL55 around a track faster than a M6 why is it so impossible for a facelifted SL550 to be able to truly have some handling capability. I swear you BMW fanatics sometime don't understand anything else. This article is now idotic, yet when BMW wins one (which they almost always do with Car and Driver) you'd be praising this publication. The luxury GT class is about the best overall experience and if the BMW doesn't bring the sport equation to the table in abundance the others have all the luxury and other things that people look for. BMW has never had an answer for the SL.


This magazine that is full of "shit" loves BMWs and the new 3-Series and previous generation 5-Series won every single comparo they ever had, but since they don't pic a 650i over a SL, they're idiots? That is rediculous to say the least.

Nobody here is saying that the SL is a better handler than anything, at least I'm not, what I'm saying is that it won because it was the best all arounder of the group. Why is that so hard for BMW fanatics to grasp?

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