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This is a discussion on Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Originally Posted by Mr. Chigga_Chan But the Porsche was like neutered. Automatic, NON-S version. I think a Manual CarreraS Cabrio ...

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Old 07-11-2006, 12:15 AM   #11
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

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But the Porsche was like neutered. Automatic, NON-S version. I think a Manual CarreraS Cabrio would have given the SL a run for its money, but then it falls out of the parameters of the comparo. But regardless cross-shopers would probably go for a S with a 6-Speed...
I agree, a 911 is a different type of car and a Carrera S Cabrio would slaughter a SL550 in a different type of comparo.

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Old 07-11-2006, 12:15 AM   #12
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

I picked up this article yesterday and got so disgusted with American Magazines and their complete lack of good judgement and imagination. I noticed that they all copy each other even on the out-comes. I read the August issue of Motortrend and then an August issue of Car and Driver both having an article on the M coupe vs. Caymen. Both having the same exact results despite the fact that in the real world the M coupe is faster. They both said that the Caymen was faster to 60! ??? Does that make any sence. I have never heard of that before these magazines. What are they thinking??? Not even porsche would admit to that.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:17 AM   #13
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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I picked up this article yesterday and got so disgusted with American Magazines and their complete lack of good judgement and imagination. I noticed that they all copy each other even on the out-comes. I read the August issue of Motortrend and then an August issue of Car and Driver both having an article on the M coupe vs. Caymen. Both having the same exact results despite the fact that in the real world the M coupe is faster. They both said that the Caymen was faster to 60! ??? Does that make any sence. I have never heard of that before these magazines. What are they thinking??? Not even porsche would admit to that.
I guess I'm missing something here? What is your point?

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Old 07-11-2006, 12:19 AM   #14
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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I guess I'm missing something here? What is your point?

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They both have the same article in the same issue with the same results and even the same 0-60 out come which makes absolutely no sence because we all know that the Bimmer is quicker at least in a strait line.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:25 AM   #15
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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They both have the same article in the same issue with the same results and even the same 0-60 out come which makes absolutely no sence because we all know that the Bimmer is quicker at least in a strait line.
So that makes them incompetent? CAR and Top Gear will have similar tests also. Car makers sense out press cars to magazines at the same time all the time. I don't see what the big deal is. Different magazines test cars differently and there are other factors in getting the best 0-60 times. Motor Trend got only 4.7 sec 0-60 for the S600 while Car and Driver got 4.2 secs.

We all know a BMW isn't likely to beat a Porsche overall when it comes to a sports car comparo.

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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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Trust me - the XK taking honors over the 650 is a laugh.
Exactly ...obviously this reviewer is clinically insane.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:30 AM   #17
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

Their factory times are a quarter of a second apart. I think its peculiar that the porsche would end up quicker in both of these tests...The BMW has a better power to weight ratio and according to everything else I've read its quicker than the porsche. So it bugs me when they have these tests with results that are totally different than what makes sence.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

Well I think you're making a lot of something very small, IMO. The Porsche could have been faster due to the BMW being a brand new car with few miles. Anything could have happened.

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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

My point is that its just really friggin odd that both articles would say the same thing in both issues but I KNOW as a car enthusasiast which is quicker-and what pisses me off is that the results are misleading and some biased dumb *&^# is writing these with much less knowldege than you or I.
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Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera

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My point is that its just really friggin odd that both articles would say the same thing in both issues but I KNOW as a car enthusasiast which is quicker-and what pisses me off is that the results are misleading and some biased dumb *&^# is writing these with much less knowldege than you or I.

Not sure how to respond to that, but ok. Maybe the both tested the same cars, I dunno without having the issues in front of me.

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