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Old 05-28-2006, 12:53 AM   #21
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

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Yes, we are all German car fans... but that doesn't mean being a Lexus/Toyota hater.
When Lexus makes cars as good as the German ones i will be the first to admit it but we are a long way from that. It's not easy for a immitation to be better than the original.

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...and your point is?
All that proves is that they make comments just as narrow-minded as yours.
You want to tell me that all cars are the same and whoever doesn't admit that is narrow-minded? If i start saying that Kia Magentis is as good as Lexus IS will you believe me? If you won't then you will be narrow minded too?

Also what happened to the freedom of speach? Why i 'm not allowed to say what i believe? You don't have to agree with me of course.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:22 AM   #22
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

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When Lexus makes cars as good as the German ones i will be the first to admit it but we are a long way from that. It's not easy for a immitation to be better than the original.
That's the thing though; Lexus does make better cars than the Germans. You only need to look at the legendary LS400. That made a huge impact, especially in the US, and sent every German manufacturer into panic mode.

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Also what happened to the freedom of speach? Why i 'm not allowed to say what i believe? You don't have to agree with me of course.
Like I said before; there's a difference between opinion and ignorance.
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Old 05-28-2006, 03:18 AM   #23
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

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I think the IS deserves at least a second place. But this comparo concerns only diesels and as far as I know, Lexus diesels suck.
this is a german carmag, foregin cars never win a compariosn in Autobild or AMS. The german carmags are superbaised and the Lexus need more credit than it gets. If you like german cars and want germancars to win, go read a germancarmag.
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Old 05-28-2006, 03:34 AM   #24
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

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You only need to look at the legendary LS400.
So the LS400 just became legendary. Nice to know.

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Like I said before; there's a difference between opinion and ignorance.
Every coin has two sides so i can say the exact same thing for you guys. I know exactly what Lexus stands for but i have a feeling that you don't.

Last year a survey was made in several European countries regarding auto manufacturer's brand image and public awareness. Mercedes was rated first , BMW second , Audi third , Volvo fourth and VW fifth.

As for Lexus i don't even remember which spot they got but it was surely behind VW. As you can see many people share the same opinion with me about Lexus and i can't see that changing soon. I know that they are selling very well in other parts of the world and they are currently spending billions in advertising and "public relations" in order to enter the European market but as far as i 'm concerned they are not in my options for the next few decades.
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:35 AM   #25
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

I think Lexus has a good image in America, but in europe, and most certainly the UK, Lexus is though of a good product without a proper badge!

Anyone who's into posing would never buy a Lexus, Alan Partridge had one!
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:22 AM   #26
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That's the thing though; Lexus does make better cars than the Germans.



If they did make better cars than the Germans, they wouldn't have to rip off anything the Germans make!

And what they do? They rip off anything the Germans make.

Only a fool to not realize that Lexus is nothing more than a shameless a Cadillac rip off. Basically they are nothing more than Japanese Toyotas sold with a poncy name. No Lexus for me thanks. They are well built and reliable but oh so booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

WOW.. that was a strong post...
let see what happens

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This isnt probably the best place to look for good comments about lexus..
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

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If they did make better cars than the Germans, they wouldn't have to rip off anything the Germans make!

And what they do? They rip off anything the Germans make.

Only a fool to not realize that Lexus is nothing more than a shameless a Cadillac rip off. Basically they are nothing more than Japanese Toyotas sold with a poncy name. No Lexus for me thanks. They are well built and reliable but oh so booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.
I'm not even bother commenting on this reply, because it's ignorant, biased and well, just plain idiocy.

Oh, and Yannis, I don't see what brand image and public awareness has to do with how good or bad a car is.

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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

I had always thought that Lexus cars are more or less toyotas but it all took a turn after I had driven a IS 250 sport. The car is in noway boring to drive and neither is the interior crappy in away way. It is a very competent car which is probably the brands best weapon agasint ze Germanz. I would recommend you Lexus haters to book a test drive. It is really a desirable car, no doubt.
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Re: AutoBild:Lexus IS 220D vs BMW 320d vs Mercedes C220 CDI.

Well said Top Secret.. and I'm glad you didn't waste your breath (so to speak).

Here I was thinking all the members here were mature and a cut above those immature kids at forums like autospies.... I guess we still have a few lose nuts here.

It's a pity some people here are so blinded by brand and country of origin bias that they can't stand back and appreciate car for what it is rather than what it's called. Oh well.
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