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The IS looks great. Go see it in real life, I genuinely think it is a much more composed & aggressive design than the 3er and C-Class.

The shoulder line draws thick through to the boot, and its stance from sideways is pleasing. Not to mention those shutlines literally makes the car's sides look like slabs of aerodynamically-flat sheet metal. The interior is nothing to shout about, though.

I think the IS deserves at least a second place. But this comparo concerns only diesels and as far as I know, Lexus diesels suck.

Where did I say newer???

I've driven the Lexus IS220d quite extensively, and it's better than the C diesel, which I had last vacation via Hertz.

For me a Lexus will never be better than C class (or A4 or 3 series) for the same reasons that a Toyota Avensis will never be better than a Passat.

for sure im with yannis..would never take the lexus over any of the 3 germans..no matter how old..

For me an Audi will never be better than a BMW

Ah I see so blind pride for one company means that no one will ever ever match or exceed in your opinion. Well some might say you're missing out, but what do they know...

Yannis...you're not going to get anywhere with that disgusting show of bias. All you're proving to us is that you're extremely shallow-minded and just a German fanboy. There's a difference between opinion and ignorance.

Disregarding Yannis' stupid bashing of Lexus cars, I personally think the IS is a great car, and much better than what this result from Autobild shows. While not exactly a class leader in specific categories, its constistency that makes this car stand out from the pack. Now, I don't have any experience with the 220D model, as it's not sold here in Australia, due to a lack of demand, but I have been in an IS250 and I must say, it is brilliant! From an all-round perspective, the Lexus IS rates higher than the C-Class and, dare I say, the 3 Series for me. It's the perfect balance of looks, quality, power and handling.

Now, if only the IS came as a hybrid with the 2.5L V6...

Thank you Top Secret for saying what was running through my mind as well. Such bling brand-bias is, as Top Secret said, very shallow-minded. It's fine to say you'll never consider a Lexus, I can understand that, but saying a Lexus will never be better than a Benz of Beemer, that's hopeless.

I guess there is a reason i 'm a member in GERMAN Car Zone.

IS is nowhere near the German cars. In fact from the reviews i have seen noone said the opposite.

Audi RS4 anyone? A8? Q7?

BTW if you go and check Lexus forums you will see that for many people a BMW will never be better than a Lexus.

Yes, we are all German car fans... but that doesn't mean being a Lexus/Toyota hater.

It's one thing to love and favour a brand, but it's a low thing to act childish and make immature comments about another brand.

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...and your point is?
All that proves is that they make comments just as narrow-minded as yours.