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Old 05-27-2009, 04:30 PM   #21
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Of Course! I like German cars, but this doesn't blind me to other autmobile companies that actually provide outstanding cars.
Not to worry about this happening with me. I am a CarGuy and try to never take sides although I have noticed I have been a BMW and Porsche whore as of late. But I love all cars, I admire and argue for the Corvette, Viper, Mustang, Camaro, GT-R here and sometimes some people think I am nuts. Really when it comes to performance nothing can beat american but interiors belong to the germans. I guess the Japanese try to combine both of best worlds at a reasonable price. If you invest properly into an american car (much less than you think) around 20-30k you can have a car that handles, brakes, corners, steers and accelerates like no other.
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If you invest properly into an american car (much less than you think) around 20-30k you can have a car that handles, brakes, corners, steers and accelerates like no other.
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I thinking the same thing, but I'm sure the ZR-1 is going to come up.


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Nice read & tough ground! They should have added Caddy's new Cts here too... for some American show!
Ugh..The CTS...such a worthless box. It is still an insult that C&D doesn't put the C-class in their comparisons. Glad I didn't renew my subscription!

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The 5-series is a big car. A bit uninspiring. The 3-series feels more nimble and responsive. I guess that is the big issue.

I felt that the 5 series was more responsive. The 5 even handled better to me. After MB messed up the E-class I might even consider buying a 5 series (if it wasn't about to be replaced). Well I guess it is personal preference.

I still prefer "S-class" size vehicles over small and mid-size vehicles.
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I felt that the 5 series was more responsive. The 5 even handled better to me. After MB messed up the E-class I might even consider buying a 5 series (if it wasn't about to be replaced). Well I guess it is personal preference.

I still prefer "S-class" size vehicles over small and mid-size vehicles.
Remember, I drive a MINI on an everyday basis, I need light and smallish cars I agree that if you are not driving overly enthusiastic, like on a long journey or just a little more relaxed, the 5-series is better.

I would also consider the next 5-series. I could be great. I do not, however, agree that Mercedes missed the target with the new E-class. I like it a lot more than the W211. I don't know if you have seen it yet, I have and seeing it in the metal somewhat changed my mind and in a sense confirmed my thaughts about it. It changed my mind in that it blew away all doutbs and confirmed my feeling that this could be the best E-class since the W124.
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Meet the Hennessey 755-HP ZR750 Corvette
Haha, I got you completely wrong there! I thaught you meant a car

The Hennessy is not even to dream of here - utterly illegal.
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Ugh..The CTS...such a worthless box. It is still an insult that C&D doesn't put the C-class in their comparisons. Glad I didn't renew my subscription!
They've done it before with both Merc & Caddy in! And keeping up the tradition, the king-of-the-ring won!

I just wanted to see how (so-called) best American compact stands against new Japanese pocket-rocket, G37-S!



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I would also consider the next 5-series. I could be great. I do not, however, agree that Mercedes missed the target with the new E-class. I like it a lot more than the W211. I don't know if you have seen it yet, I have and seeing it in the metal somewhat changed my mind and in a sense confirmed my thaughts about it. It changed my mind in that it blew away all doutbs and confirmed my feeling that this could be the best E-class since the W124.

Wow.....gee thanks a lot for underlining the fact that I haven't see the car yet...lol!


Seriously though, the best since the W124..that would really be something.


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CarGuy....those are heavily modified cars....not really fair unless you're going compare them to modified/tuned Eurocars.

Anyway I wouldn't buy a 328i over a top-spec G37...the G37 engine would have to sound and behave like an old diesel for me to do that. Now I'd take a 335i over a G37, but as usualy C&D always does this stupid price bullshyte that keeps them in bottom run German cars when comparing them.


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