German Car Zone

The interior of CTS-V is truly impressive - pity they couldn't do the same to ZR1/Z06.

As for it beating the M5, yea, it beats the M5, but barely and for a car 5 years old and a big power deficit, M5 still holds up pretty well. The bigger question is how does the brand new E63 stack up against the CTS V, my guess, not too well.

My guess is to save costs and make the gap a little less than the ridiculous 30k. The SMG is more expensive than the manual, no? It does make sense to use the manual though so that both cars can be tested on par (manual for manual). The E63 AMG would get crushed by the CTS-V in terms of pretty much everything including style and interior. Sorry but the new E63 does not appeal to me at all. It is much to classy and it seems to appeal to more elderly people. Like that wasn't enough, I mean the W211 was designed to appeal to 40-50's year olds IMO, but this new one W212, looks more like appealing to 60-70's year old males.

What, some of the BMW stalwarts are admitting that CTS-V beats the M5 astonishing.....!!

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I never take sides. I try to keep an open mind, unlike some members here who are so biased and washed by a particular make supremacy, it is not even funny. I won't say which, it's best to leave it open to self reflecting thoughts.

No, SMG doesn't cost extra, in fact SMG is the standard transmission and the manual is a no cost option.

The E60 M5 has been with us since 2005, so 4 years now, which can be argued is quite dated, although I think the style is still very much on par with the freshly released CTS-V. The new M5 due in 2011 or so better be marvelous. In fact I don't even know how they can make these sedans any better before they start insulting and intruding into supercar crushing territory. I mean when the M5 came out it had so much hype and fanatics, and I remember automobile magazine took it on some twisty roads somewhere in France or so and they were astonished how they couldn't get the F430 to lose the M5 through the twists. The new CTS-V is insane. I mean quite literally I can see it crush a NSX even on a track. Heck even a ZO6 with it's much to lose rear end, I don't see it as much of a ways away from in terms of straight line acceleration and track performance and handling. Soon enough if they continue like this there won't even be a point to much more expensive supercars since when your going to be married and have a family, you can have your equally as much fun, for fractions of the price, with the kids and dogs in the back too.

Caddy has totally impressed me with the CTS-V. I even voted it in some poll a while back. If it's manual M5 and manual CTS-V, I'd take the CTS-V. If it's auto CTS-V & SMG M5 then perhaps I'd choose the M5.

Yes, it is a very good looking interior! Well done. I guess thiss is the start of something new. I mean, who would have thaught that a Caddy would beat the M5 (even if it is an American test and the M5 is soon to be replaced). Not even American magazines would have come to this conclusion a couple of years ago. Who knows, maybe the next STS/CTS will beat the Germans even in European comparisons?

No more of this?

BTW, I thaught the manual transmission was a no-cost option.

Haha, "crushes", funny, didn't you think this would get ugly enough without the obvious provocations?

The cars are equally fast (remember, faster is never the same as better unless you are in a competitive race) and these journalists liked the Caddy better. No crushing.

Yup.