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This is a discussion on Edmunds - IL Track Tested: 2009 BMW 750Li vs. 2009 Mercedes-Benz S550 within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Originally Posted by Tarek Still i expected much more from that new TT V8,no wonder MB didn't update the V8s ...

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Old 04-15-2009, 02:24 PM   #21
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Still i expected much more from that new TT V8,no wonder MB didn't update the V8s just yet.
I'm very curious what differences you were expected? I mean a C63 isn't much faster than a M3 despite being more powerful.
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:27 PM   #22
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Well it can't be both ways. One minute everyone is on Mercedes about updating the V8 , but in reality it does just fine. Yet the next someone will tout how the BMW V8 is so superior....the question is which is it? Is the Mercedes V8 so old and uncompetitive or not?


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Old 04-15-2009, 02:32 PM   #23
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..the question is which is it? Is the Mercedes V8 so old and uncompetitive or not?


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well it's simple,MB's V8 is like 4 year old now against a brand new V8 and still doin very well according to the numerous reviews we've seen already,so i think it's wise decision not updating the V8s now and leave all the goodies for the all new S due in three years time.
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The MB V8 is clearly behind in performance in this duel but is it far enough behind to justify a brand new one? I don't think so, it is not that much behind in what makes a Mercedes.
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What I've got to find out is how is that BMW, Audi/VW (nearly everything they sell here), Cadillac, and now Porsche manage to sell direct-injection engines here while Mercedes and Nissan/Infiniti say our gasoline it too dirty. I don't see anything about those who do sell DI engines here having their dealers service shops full of cars with clogged fuel injectors???

DI would take the 382hp, 5.5L V8 over 400 very easily though it still wouldn't match the BMW V8 on torque.

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Isn't that the case with the 3.0 from BMW as well? You poor sods state side gets the really old version with 231 (imperial) hp version while we get the 272 hp in the 528/530?
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No BMW does the DI turbo 3.0L with 300hp in everything, 335i, 535i etc. The previous 760Li had DI years ago and was one of the first to employ it here.

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What I've got to find out is how is that BMW, Audi/VW (nearly everything they sell here), Cadillac, and now Porsche manage to sell direct-injection engines here while Mercedes and Nissan/Infiniti say our gasoline it too dirty. I don't see anything about those who do sell DI engines here having their dealers service shops full of cars with clogged fuel injectors???

DI would take the 382hp, 5.5L V8 over 400 very easily though it still wouldn't match the BMW V8 on torque.

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Well doesn;t the US get the CGI V6 ones? that one is DI.
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No BMW does the DI turbo 3.0L with 300hp in everything, 335i, 535i etc. The previous 760Li had DI years ago and was one of the first to employ it here.

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We get that too, the 3.0TT with 306 hp (not in 5-series) but the N/A 3.0 in Europe gets 272 hp. In the US they only have 231.
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Yeah our base 3.0L does without DI correct.

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