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bmer · 03-26-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dr Dunkel

Well, in the BMW case we know what engine will be used but not what it will be called (735d/740d(may use different maps or tuning and change the name)) and in the Mercedes case we know what the engne will be called but not so much what it is all about.

So, no reference to a V8 diesel as far as I can see.

This is correct. I mentioned 740d as a possible name for the 3.0 TT diesel-I6. That's because the N54 engine (3.0 TT petrol-I6, used in e.g. 335i) in the F01 7er is called 740i instead of 735i.

Tarek · 03-26-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bmer

This is correct. I mentioned 740d as a possible name for the 3.0 TT diesel-I6. That's because the N54 engine (3.0 TT petrol-I6, used in e.g. 335i) in the F01 7er is called 740i instead of 735i.

If that's the case then try to be a little bit more specific not vague the next time

Sunny · 03-26-2009, 02:21 PM

Yea bmer, wt*, you want me to think before stuffing my foot into my mouth?

Tarek · 03-26-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny

Yea bmer, wt*, you want me to think before stuffing my foot into my mouth?

Haha,u know his post was vague about the TT I6 or a V8 D,if a MB said the other way around u'd be jumping on how speculative he is

Relax sunny

bmer · 03-26-2009, 04:55 PM

Could one of our German-speaking members translate this exact part, please? Thanks!

Just_me did a good summary earlier but I'm interested in some further details. I can't say I was completely satisfied with what Google, Babelfish and freetranslation.com gave me.

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Den technologischen Rückstand kann der Audi A8 auch im Fahrbetrieb nicht ganz verbergen. Er operiert durchweg auf einem höheren Drehzahlniveau als die beiden Konkurrenten, was sich zum Teil sehr deutlich in hohen Verbräuchen niederschlägt (siehe Tabelle). Zudem erreicht der leicht vibrierende A8 nicht ganz die geschmeidige Laufkultur wie 7er und S-Klasse. Zwar lässt sich der Audi nicht zuletzt dank der leichten Alu-Karosserie und des traktionsstarken Allradantriebs agil bewegen, doch gerade der quattro-Antrieb macht einen großen Teil der Gewichtsersparnis wieder zunichte und erzeugt zudem höhere Fahrwiderstände.

Der BMW spart am besten Sprit

In fast allen Kriterien ist der neue 730d kaum zu schlagen. Er spricht deutlich spontaner aufs Gas an, läuft extrem leise und kultiviert und weist eine Agilität auf, die man eher einem deutlich kleineren Auto zuordnen würde. Das gilt auch für den Verbrauch, wo sich Maßnahmen wie die verschließbaren Kühlluftöffnungen und die Bremsenergie-Rückgewinnung auszahlen. Insgesamt fällt das Spritsparen mit dem BMW am leichtesten – und dafür muss man nicht auf Schleichfahrt gehen, sondern ist sogar durchweg flott unterwegs.
Der deutlich schwerere Mercedes benimmt sich behäbiger, und seine etwas zögerlich aufs Gas reagierende Siebengang-Automatik muss ab und an schon mal zurückschalten, um am 7er dranzubleiben. Auch beim Ampelstart setzt sich die S-Klasse nicht so leichtfüßig in Bewegung wie Audi und BMW. Dennoch zeigen die BlueEFFICIENCY-Maßnahmen Wirkung, an die Sparsamkeit des 730d kommt der große Benz jedoch nicht ganz heran.

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Originally Posted by Tarek

If that's the case then try to be a little bit more specific not vague the next time

Sure Tarek, I'll try to be extremely specific in my future replies to you.

But only on the condition that you don't make such bold claims (the other car would've DEFINITELY won IF...) based on nothing but your own speculation.

Also, I have to say I'm surprised you had no idea about the 35d (N54) engine even though it has been in the market for a long time and it's the engine that Tycoon has in his car...

Tarek · 03-26-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bmer

Sure Tarek, I'll try to be extremely specific in my future replies to you.

But only on the condition that you don't make such bold claims (the other car would've DEFINITELY won IF...) based on nothing but your own speculation.

Also, I have to say I'm surprised you had no idea about the 35d (N54) engine even though it has been in the market for a long time and it's the engine that Tycoon has in his car...

-Good,deal..haha

-What makes u think that i didn't know about the 35D engine? all my talk was about an imaginary V8 diesel not Tyc's one

Anyway looks like the FL S will be unveiled next month,so let the tests come

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