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View Poll Results: Which Mid-market Sports Car? 370Z, Cayman S or Z4 M?
Nissan 370Z 4 4.76%
Porsche Cayman S 43 51.19%
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:10 AM   #31
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The Cayman S with PDK, PASM and PCCB.

Mid-rear engine layout, a semi-auto, semi-active suspensions and ceramic composite brakes, it's what a sport car should be.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:17 AM   #32
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The Cayman S with PDK, PASM and PCCB.

Mid-rear engine layout, a semi-auto, semi-active suspensions and ceramic composite brakes, it's what a sport car should be.
Absolutely. But at a significant price.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:38 AM   #33
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Absolutely. But at a significant price.


But you didn't say "if price would be an issue".
The Cayman S (well excluding its weight) seems like everything that Dr. Ferdinand Porsche would have wanted in a sportscar.

Unlike the 911 it's got the engine in the proper place for a sport and racing car, between the driver and rear axle, just as Dr. Porsche belived.

With a proper engine (at least equal power-torque to weight ratio) the Cayman would show the 911 that an ultra-refined Bettle is no match for a thoroughbred. You know it (despite your 911/rear-engine layout admiration), I know it and Porsche knows it.
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Re: Poll: Mid-market Sports Car Traditionalists...

Personally I'm more impressed with the Z4. I really love the design and the engines. I hope I'll purchase a Z4 3.0Si Coupé next year.
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But you didn't say "if price would be an issue".
The Cayman S (well excluding its weight) seems like everything that Dr. Ferdinand Porsche would have wanted in a sportscar.

Unlike the 911 it's got the engine in the proper place for a sport and racing car, between the driver and rear axle, just as Dr. Porsche belived.

With a proper engine (at least equal power-torque to weight ratio) the Cayman would show the 911 that an ultra-refined Bettle is no match for a thoroughbred. You know it (despite your 911/rear-engine layout admiration), I know it and Porsche knows it.
I said that, "money being no object" the Cayman S would be a definitive choice and subsquently pointed out how, even with the barest of options, the Cayman S is more expensive than an M3 in SA. Now, I'm very aware of the advantages / disadvantages of engine layout and placement and yes, the Cayman brings mid-engined dynamism to this group, but it does so at a very high premium. And, c'mon, M3 or Cayman S? No brainer.

Not all of us can afford the best on offer, otherwise we'd all be driving Scuderias. [Ducks flaming balls of contempt from Lambo-loving fellow members]. Similarly, we've expounded on the superiority of the Porsche's layout but have chosen to bear the cost consideration in mind.

As for double-clutch gearboxes? Fine if 1.257 seconds is the be all and end all in your driving experience but there's no way I'd have one over a manual given the option. Spent too much time enjoying double de-clutching and heel-n-toe to give up on that.

The Cayman S is the superior machine here, no doubt. But you'll pay for it.
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Re: Poll: Mid-market Sports Car Traditionalists...

Z4 for me...based on purely aesthetic, emotional appeal.
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