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Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10This is a discussion on Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10 within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; Unnatural selection: With 600 horsepower (and then some), these supercars are at the pinnacle of the automotive food chain. Just ... |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Unnatural selection: With 600 horsepower (and then some), these supercars are at the pinnacle of the automotive food chain. Just like dinosaurs, they may be doomed. It’s easy to diss old-fashioned people as dinosaurs, with their plodding resistance to change, but think about this: Those lumbering, small-brained behemoths ruled the earth for 165 million years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been in charge of messing up the planet. Although Diplodocus had similar brain power to bankers who thought asset-backed securities were a sure thing, you’ve still got to be impressed with this 90-foot-long, 20-ton beast that perambulated the third planet from the sun all those years ago. Like dinosaurs, the 600-horsepower beasts gathered here could soon become extinct, but they are also highly impressive. Machines that weigh as much as two tons and sport massive 12-cylinder engines aren’t exactly in tune with the zeitgeist, which is increasingly angst-ridden over global warming, dependence on foreign oil, and the greening of energy. Performance cars may soon become more fuel efficient—lighter and more compact, with smaller engines. No doubt they’ll be great to drive, but they won’t be as dramatic as a Dodge Viper or a Lamborghini Murciélago in full flight. The Viper is pretty familiar now. The current-generation roadster went on sale in 2003, with the coupe following as a 2006 model. In 2008, it got a 600-hp, 8.4-liter V-10 with trick variable valve timing to replace the 510-hp, 8.3-liter unit. Dodge also revised the suspension and fitted a GKN torque-sensing differential, which made the car more stable and forgiving. The Murciélago has been around for a while, too, debuting in 2001. Tracing its lineage back to the Countach of 1974, the car was revised in 2007 as the LP640, featuring a 6.5-liter V-12 making 632 horsepower, an increase of 60 over the previous 6.2-liter engine’s output. Lamborghini also added carbon-ceramic brakes, tidied up the interior, and tweaked the suspension. The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 went on sale at the end of 2008 as a 2009 model. It is the fastest and most expensive Corvette ever, makes extensive use of carbon-fiber components, has carbon-ceramic brakes, and is motivated by the most powerful small-block Chevy ever—a supercharged 6.2-liter, LS9 V-8 engine that produces 638 horsepower. The ZR1 isn’t the most powerful car of this pack, though. That distinction goes to the 2010 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series. This is a massively reworked SL65 with carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic bodywork for the front fenders, the hood, the trunk, and the fixed coupe roof (which replaces the SL’s usual folding hardtop). The 6.0-liter, twin-turbo V-12 is the same as the SL65’s except that larger turbochargers, a modified intake, and redesigned mufflers boost power from 604 horses to a bodacious 661. Drivetrain components have been beefed up, along with the braking system, which sports 15.4-inch front rotors and 14.2-inch discs at the back. An adjustable coil-over suspension replaces the coil springs and the automatic, hydraulic self-leveling springs on the other SL variants. Beautiful, forged aluminum wheels carry 265/35R-19 Dunlop tires up front, with 325/30R-20s in back. At the end of our time with the four cars, when we were filling their tanks with premium—ironic, so-called dinosaurs being fueled by the remains of the real thing—a youngish guy came bounding over, eyes bulging in disbelief. He exclaimed in a whispery voice: “I feel like I’m surrounded by women—they’re all so beautiful.” Indeed. Enthusiasts will look back at the first decade of the 21st century as a golden age. We may never see cars like this again. First: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Second: Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 Third: Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series Fourth: Dodge Viper SRT10 Full Article: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10 M
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![]() Imo, Lp-640 is quite out-dated car for this comparo! Still, looks like she came right out of a car show! ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper S ZR-1 $116,520 3340 lbs 52/48 Weight Distribution supercharged pushrod 16-valve V-8 376 cu in (6162cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 638 bhp @ 6500 rpm 604 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm Redline: 6500 rpm Lb/bhp: 5.2 6 Speed Manual 0-30 mph: 1.8 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.8 sec 0-120 mph: 10.4 sec 0-140 mph: 14.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 127 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.9 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 6.3 sec 50-70 mph, 5.3 sec 70mph-0: 141 feet 1.07 g Top Speed: 205 mph (drag limited) SRT-10 $98,060 3420 lbs 50/50 Weight Distribution pushrod 20-valve V-10 512 cu in (8382cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 600 bhp @ 6100 rpm 560 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm Redline: 6250 rpm Lb/bhp: 5.7 6 Speed Manual 0-30 mph: 1.8 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.8 sec 0-120 mph: 10.4 sec 0-140 mph: 14.2 sec 1320 ft, 11.8 sec @ 128 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.7 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 10.5 sec 50-70 mph, 9.8 sec 70mph-0: 162 feet 1.02 g Top Speed: 202 mph (drag limited) LP640 $440,460 4060 lbs 42/58 Weight Distribution DOHC 48-valve V-12 396 cu in (6496cc) Mid Engine-All Wheel Drive 632 bhp @ 8000 rpm 487 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm Redline: 8500 rpm Lb/bhp: 6.4 6 Speed E-Gear 0-30 mph: 1.4 sec 0-60 mph: 3.2 sec 0-100 mph: 7.5 sec 0-120 mph: 10.1 sec 0-140 mph: 14.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.5 sec @ 127 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 4.3 sec 50-70 mph, 5.2 sec 70mph-0: 166 feet 1.00 g Top Speed: 211 mph (drag limited) SL65 BS $304,350 4220 lbs 52/48 Weight Distribution twin-turbocharged SOHC 36-valve V-12 365 cu in (5980cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 661 bhp @ 5400 rpm 738 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm Redline: 6200 rpm Lb/bhp: 6.4 5 Speed Automatic 0-30 mph: 1.6 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.6 sec 0-120 mph: 10.5 sec 0-140 mph: 15.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 126 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 2.0 sec 50-70 mph, 1.9 sec 70mph-0: 152 feet 0.93 g Top Speed: 199 mph (governor limited)
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper S And I will have them in that order please!
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper S Quote:
the LP is the winner buh meh because there are to many poor people in the world will have to pick the car that can mimic the rich man's car best, the Corvette.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper S Of course... if money is not an object! I just noticed, $440,460 price-tag of Lambo means... I'm decades away! ![]() I must admit, it's impossible to buy as much performance as Corvette offers with that price-tag! ![]()
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Yep in America the ZR and SRT are kings of the hill in value.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper S Here's my order: SL65 Black. LP640 ZR-1 Viper ![]() |
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